Would you shop your kids - Page 4

garinda · 11-08-2011, 20:10

Tough love isn't easy parenting.

One of the most valuable lessons you could ever teach a child is that actions carry consequences.

Mancie · 11-08-2011, 20:11

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Originally Posted by garinda

To me it's as simple as explaining to children that cheating at snakes and ladders, or whatever, is wrong.

Yes it's a simple as that..and seeing as we are blaming the parents for this mess maybe we should question the parents of the majority of our Honorable Members of Parliment who were caught looting and pilfering the public purse for many years?

garinda · 11-08-2011, 20:14

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Yes it's a simple as that..and seeing as we are blaming the parents for this mess maybe we should question the parents of the majority of our Honorable Members of Parliment who were caught looting and pilfering the public purse for many years?

I'm not blaming the parents.

I posted yesterday that I blame the soft arsed liberalism, which resulted from the flower power children eventually moving into positions of power, and which brought about the errosion of discipline in our society.

garinda · 11-08-2011, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Yes it's a simple as that..and seeing as we are blaming the parents for this mess maybe we should question the parents of the majority of our Honorable Members of Parliment who were caught looting and pilfering the public purse for many years?

As stated earlier, sadly we live in the 'me and mine' generation.

Collectively we are selfish.

It's been downhill ever since May, 1979.

garinda · 11-08-2011, 20:30

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Originally Posted by garinda

I'd like to broaden the question, to those who voted that they wouldn't bring their child to justice, after they'd been involved in riots and looting.

Another question, for the no voters.

What would you do if your teenage child was stealing from your own parents, their granny or grandad?

Do remember that pasting their hide isn't an option.

Children are protected by 'rights'.

Would you also help them evade justice?

Mancie · 11-08-2011, 20:35

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Originally Posted by garinda

As stated earlier, sadly we live in the 'me and mine' generation.

Collectively we are selfish.

It's been downhill ever since May, 1979.

I'm re-quoting this post so as it won't get lost

Mancie · 11-08-2011, 20:44

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Originally Posted by garinda

Another question, for the no voters.

What would you do if your teenage child was stealing from your own parents, their granny or grandad?

Do remember that pasting their hide isn't an option.

Children are protected by 'rights'.

Would you also help them evade justice?

Ok hang on here..when we say "kids" what sort of age group are we talking about?.. if a lets say a 13yr old has stolen a small amout of money from his/her granny would you be on the phone to the police?.. to be honest it's unlikley I would do that..in the first instance I would take my own action..maybe if my child was totally out of control I might do otherwise.. so I suppose that makes me scum .

cashman · 11-08-2011, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Mancie

I'm re-quoting this post so as it won't get lost

yeh can requote it as often as you like, its summat garinda n meself have discussed n agreed on the fact -quite a few times oer the years.

duggie · 11-08-2011, 20:51

yes yes yes, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime, and I personally would jail the parents for aiding and abbetting a criminal, bonus, two off the streets

Margaret Pilkington · 11-08-2011, 20:54

Your child is always your child(I don't really like the term 'kid'...it relates to goats)...and it is never too early to start on giving them a good code of morals and ethics.
Often the police would like to know, and help, when something like this goes on...just don't ring 999 to report it...but a trip to the local police station with the offending offspring might just stop them getting into trouble later down the road....although I am not sure that a stern telling off from a burly bobby has the same effect today as it did when we were youngsters.

Mancie · 11-08-2011, 20:54

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Originally Posted by duggie

yes yes yes, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime, and I personally would jail the parents for aiding and abbetting a criminal, bonus, two off the streets

Well like I said earlier.. half of our present MP's and thier parents would be in prison right now

garinda · 11-08-2011, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Ok hang on here..when we say "kids" what sort of age group are we talking about?.. if a lets say a 13yr old has stolen a small amout of money from his/her granny would you be on the phone to the police?.. to be honest it's unlikley I would do that..in the first instance I would take my own action..maybe if my child was totally out of control I might do otherwise.. so I suppose that makes me scum .

Let's say the same age as the teenagers who've been rioting this week.

We'll settle on an average of sixteen.

The amount stolen from a grandparent?

Lets say the same amount as a few looted laps tops, and some criminal damage?

Two thousand pounds we'll call it.

Your answer to the question?

Margaret Pilkington · 11-08-2011, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Ok hang on here..when we say "kids" what sort of age group are we talking about?.. if a lets say a 13yr old has stolen a small amout of money from his/her granny would you be on the phone to the police?.. to be honest it's unlikley I would do that..in the first instance I would take my own action..maybe if my child was totally out of control I might do otherwise.. so I suppose that makes me scum .

Out of interest(and I am not being picky here)...what action would you take?

How would you punish your child...make him/her pay back the money?
Ground the child?
Beat seven shades of sand out of the little blighter(for which they could have you charged with assault).

How would you make sure the lesson stayed with them?
I am interested.

heth · 11-08-2011, 21:00

Yes I would, they need to learn lessons.

Maybe the first time they would get a telling off but then they have to realise next time would be harder punishment.

garinda · 11-08-2011, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Mancie

so I suppose that makes me scum .

Even though I like you, and respect some of what you say, I'm sad to say in my eyes, as a parent, it would mean that.

What are you protecting them from?

The consequences of their actions?

If we hope to live in a civilised society, teaching children that breaking the law is wrong, and will be punished, is a good lesson to learn in life.