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View Poll Results: would you shop your child or not
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I would shop my own child
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No I would not shop my child
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11-08-2011, 21:04
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by garinda
Let's say the same age as the teenagers who've been rioting this week.
We'll settle on an average of sixteen.
The amount stolen from a grandparent?
Lets say the same amount as a few looted laps tops, and some criminal damage?
Two thousand pounds we'll call it.
Your answer to the question, you defender of the scum?
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I would have to think seriously if that amount was involved, but even then I'm not sure involving the police would be any benifit to my family if we ended up in a situation were we had a close member in prison...selfish? maybe but this is all turning into "If and Buts" debate when in reality I reckon a parent would have to wiegh up the the circumstances and then decide.. it's far from as clear cut as the poll suggests.
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11-08-2011, 21:07
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by Mancie
I'm re-quoting this post so as it won't get lost
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Suprised?
Are you going to have to throw away your 'right-wing bigot/Tory apologist' label, and make me another?
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11-08-2011, 21:12
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by Mancie
I would have to think seriously if that amount was involved
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So in your world of morality, money comes into the equation?
Jesus, you are Thatcher's child.
Why does the amount matter?
Right is right, and wrong is wrong.
Be it a pound, or a million quid.
'It's the amount you steal off your granny son.'
A hundred or so would have been ok, but two grand is way out of order.'
That's an even sadder lesson to teach a child.
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11-08-2011, 21:17
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
Your child is always your child(I don't really like the term 'kid'...it relates to goats)...and it is never too early to start on giving them a good code of morals and ethics.
Often the police would like to know, and help, when something like this goes on...just don't ring 999 to report it...but a trip to the local police station with the offending offspring might just stop them getting into trouble later down the road....although I am not sure that a stern telling off from a burly bobby has the same effect today as it did when we were youngsters.
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Exactly.
I'd hapily shop them...because I loved them, and cared enough that I hope they'd change, if forced to pay for theirr actions.
Pandering to, and 'protecting' them isn't showing guidance, or real love.
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11-08-2011, 21:17
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by Mancie
I would have to think seriously if that amount was involved, but even then I'm not sure involving the police would be any benifit to my family if we ended up in a situation were we had a close member in prison...selfish? maybe but this is all turning into "If and Buts" debate when in reality I reckon a parent would have to wiegh up the the circumstances and then decide.. it's far from as clear cut as the poll suggests.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda
So in your world of morality, money comes into the equation?
Jesus, you are Thatcher's child.
Why does the amount matter?
Right is right, and wrong is wrong.
Be it a pound, or a million quid.
'It's the amount you steal off your granny son.'
A hundred or so would have been ok, but two grand is way out of order.'
That's an even sadder lesson to teach a child.
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Yeh took the words right outa me mouth rindy i was just gonna post this sounds like one of "Thatchers Children" speaking.
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11-08-2011, 21:20
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by cashman
Yeh took the words right outa me mouth rindy i was just gonna post this sounds like one of "Thatchers Children" speaking.
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11-08-2011, 21:24
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by Mancie
I'm not sure involving the police would be any benifit to my family
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As stated earlier, the 'me and mine' generation.
With no care for the greater good of society.
And ultimately the future of those they seek to protect.
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11-08-2011, 21:25
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by garinda
So in your world of morality, money comes into the equation?
Jesus, you are Thatcher's child.
Why does the amount matter?
Right is right, and wrong is wrong.
Be it a pound, or a million quid.
'It's the amount you steal off your granny son.'
A hundred or so would have been ok, but two grand is way out of order.'
That's an even sadder lesson to teach a child.
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Well maybe I am a baddie but this is silly.. are you telling me that if a pound coin was taken by your 16yr old from his granny you would call the police?.. yes it is a crime and to my mind would be as upsetting as if he had been out looting..but to call the police in to my mind would be lazy parenting.
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11-08-2011, 21:28
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by cashman
Yeh took the words right outa me mouth rindy i was just gonna post this sounds like one of "Thatchers Children" speaking.
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And there's me thinking you talk sense.
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11-08-2011, 21:32
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by Mancie
Well maybe I am a baddie but this is silly.. are you telling me that if a pound coin was taken by your 16yr old from his granny you would call the police?.. yes it is a crime and to my mind would be as upsetting as if he had been out looting..but to call the police in to my mind would be lazy parenting.
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Sad, as an indictiment of how low we've sunk, reagrding what's right and wrong, rather than bad.
As our poll shows, you're one person in five, so unfortunately for society you're not alone.
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11-08-2011, 21:33
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by Mancie
And there's me thinking you talk sense.
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What do you expect, when you put a financial price on right versus wrong?
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11-08-2011, 21:35
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Would you shop your kids
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Originally Posted by Mancie
And there's me thinking you talk sense.
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i am yeh have adopted the mentality n sadly don't realise it.
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11-08-2011, 21:36
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Re: Would you shop your kids
How many of these looters nicked in Manchester would be likley turned in by thier parents?
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11-08-2011, 21:40
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Would you shop your kids
Probably none, if seeing/listening to some of the scum parents, coming outa Manchester Court today is owt to off, they should be nicked as well.
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11-08-2011, 21:41
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Re: Would you shop your kids
why do you ask Mancie?
How can we know?...Other than by using the statistics...and if we go by these, then only one would be turned in by their parents. Isn't it a sad world? Or is it only me who feels despair in the slide of society/communities.
A dog eat dog Britain...get what you want..don't worry someone else will pay for it.
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