Would you shop your kids

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

I'd like to broaden the question, to those who voted that they wouldn't bring their child to justice, after they'd been involved in riots and looting.

If you found out a close family member, perhaps your offsping, was sexually abusing a child, would you similarly help them avoid the law of the land, and them paying for their crimes?

Any of the no voters going to answer this question, and similarly defend that they would protect their offspring from the law of the land?

For the sake of argument, again, similar to many of the rioters and looters, your child is sixteen.

The child they've abused is of primary school age.

Hopefully money doesn't come in to it, or the relative wealth of the sexually abused kiddie.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

why do you ask Mancie?
How can we know?...Other than by using the statistics...and if we go by these, then only one would be turned in by their parents. Isn't it a sad world? Or is it only me who feels despair in the slide of society/communities.
A dog eat dog Britain...get what you want..don't worry someone else will pay for it.

Take another look Margaret.. these are grown men ..I have no idea of what sort of parents they have.. and the posters on here who lable parents as scum have no idea.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

How many of these looters nicked in Manchester would be likley turned in by thier parents?

None, if they have parents like you.

I'm middle aged.

I'm lucky I still have a living parent.

I tell you as fact, she'd 100% shop me.

She's a good woman.

I'm lucky.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

What do you expect, when you put a financial price on right versus wrong?

Well seeing as you ask I'd say this government seem to have the same attitude.. is it right or wrong to cut finances for mental health and aged care homes..is it right or wrong to cut police forces because of finances?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Well seeing as you ask I'd say this government seem to have the same attitude.. is it right or wrong to cut finances for mental health and aged care homes..is it right or wrong to cut police forces because of finances?

so two wrongs make a right in your eyes?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Isn't it a sad world? Or is it only me who feels despair in the slide of society/communities.
A dog eat dog Britain...get what you want..don't worry someone else will pay for it.

No, you're not alone.

I despair for society too.

Now, and especially for the future.

When today's children become parents, and teach their offspring what's the right way to live.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Take another look Margaret.. these are grown men ..I have no idea of what sort of parents they have.. and the posters on here who lable parents as scum have no idea.

the parents on the news tonight that were interviewed were scum, its you that have no idea, n i was under the illusion yeh did.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Well seeing as you ask I'd say this government seem to have the same attitude.. is it right or wrong to cut finances for mental health and aged care homes..is it right or wrong to cut police forces because of finances?

That's it.

Hide away from this question, by fudging the issue with something entirely different.

You, and the ever growing minority, just worry about looking after you, and your's, and sod the rest of society.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I would have to think seriously if that amount was involved, but even then I'm not sure involving the police would be any benifit to my family if we ended up in a situation were we had a close member in prison.

Originally Posted by garinda

We are living with the consequences of the selfish 'me and mine' generation.

[Mancie]

Let's get things clear.. I would not call the police if any of my now older than teenage sons had stole a few quid from other members of my family.. I can honestly say that has never happend so maybe I've been lucky ...I'd like to make another thing clear.. if some posters on here think they can lable me as a scum parent because of what I have said my advice is calm down.. take notice or not it's up to you.

[Alan Varrechia]

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia

I imagine a lot of the ones doing the looting were sent out with shopping listd off their parents, so i doubt they would shop them. In fact they probably sent them knowing they wouldn't be treated as badly in the courts.

As posted earlier. It's ok on here saying would you shop your kids, most people on here i think are moral and upright, most of their kids would be nowhere near any trouble. If you look at the scummy kids it's no suprise to see a scummy parent, i don't for one minute think they would shop their kids, they more than likely actively encourage them. Under normal circumstances they probably send them out shoplifting. And having lived in Ancoats and a few other unsavoury areas i do know it goes on.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Let's get things clear.. I would not call the police if any of my now older than teenage sons had stole a few quid from other members of my family.. I can honestly say that has never happend so maybe I've been lucky ...I'd like to make another thing clear.. if some posters on here think they can lable me as a scum parent because of what I have said my advice is calm down.. take notice or not it's up to you.

Nothing needs to be calmed.

We're all having a reasoned discussion here.

You've made your thoughts perfectly clear.

If you'd found out any child of your's had been involved in the recent riots and looting, you'd turn a blind eye, as far as the laws of the land are concerned.

That's your stance.

That is sad, for the hope we have for living in a decent society.

Honour amongst those without morals.

Ironic.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Alan Varrechia

As posted earlier. It's ok on here saying would you shop your kids, most people on here i think are moral and upright, most of their kids would be nowhere near any trouble. If you look at the scummy kids it's no suprise to see a scummy parent, i don't for one minute think they would shop their kids, they more than likely actively encourage them. Under normal circumstances they probably send them out shoplifting. And having lived in Ancoats and a few other unsavoury areas i do know it goes on.

Even if some recent rioters had bad parents, who parented those parents?

Yes, the good and decent people who fought for our freedoms in World War II.

This is not just about poor parenting through the generations.

It's about a change in collective attitude, regarding right from wrong, and the reasons why this came about.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by garinda

This is not just about poor parenting through the generations.

It's about a change in collective attitude, regarding right from wrong, and the reasons why this came about.

1979 is the reason,simple as.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

my advice is calm down.. take notice or not it's up to you.

I hope that's not a threat to anyone?

Will a mob be sent, if things don't 'calm down'?

Mob rule?

Justice of the streets?