Would you shop your kids

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

Nothing needs to be calmed.

We're all having a reasoned discussion here.

You've made your thoughts perfectly clear.

If you'd found out any child of your's had been involved in the recent riots and looting, you'd turn a blind eye, as far as the laws of the land are concerned.

That's your stance.

That is sad, for the hope we have for living in a decent society.

Honour amongst those without morals.

Ironic.

I've never said I would turn a blind eye and don't see anyone on here saying that..and again you are insulting..are you telling me that anyone in in the real world who does not call the police for any infraction on the law is not Honourable and are scum?.. you harked back to the great depression that was getting close to a century ago and think that all was well in the down trodden? no one ever stole a loaf of bread the good old days?... it's not the same but lets turn it around.. would you tell on your grandad if he had stolen a loaf of bread?...I suspect not and even though it has not relevent to these riots it still asks the question would you call the police?

[shillelagh]

my dad had to make that decision ... age 16 my brother nicked my dads car and smashed it into a brand new rover in the middle of hassy ... my dad went with my brother to court .. he got fined and banned from driving for a year (when he became legal)... and when the judge asked how much spence he got .. my dad knocked 25p off the amount .. my brother had to pay his fine out of his spending money each week my mother went down to the court in rawtenstall and paid it ... my brother got a reduced spending money to pay his fine .. can remember i went once with my mum to pay it .. and she took me into the court .. it was empty ..and to a 9 year old kid it was scary ... and my mum said to me if you ever end up in here you will be in big trouble with me never mind the judge .... this was back in 1970s

that scared me enough never to do something that would see me end up in a court ...

by the way .. the police and judge both said it was my dads fault as well .... seeing as it was my dad that taught him to drive ...

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I've never said I would turn a blind eye and don't see anyone on here saying that..and again you are insulting..are you telling me that anyone in in the real world who does not call the police for any infraction on the law is not Honourable and are scum?.. you harked back to the great depression that was getting close to a century ago and think that all was well in the down trodden? no one ever stole a loaf of bread the good old days?... it's not the same but lets turn it around.. would you tell on your grandad if he had stolen a loaf of bread?...I suspect not and even though it has not relevent to these riots it still asks the question would you call the police?

Read it again.

I posted 'you'd turn a blind eye, as far as the laws of the land are concerned.'

Law?

The law of the land we live on.?

Which as you've said umpteen times, is something as a parent you'd not resort to in this situation.

More's the pity.

For the sake of generations to come's children.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

No I wouldnt.

I would deal my own punishment.

Wouldnt want to mess any future chances for my child by them possibly having a criminal conviction.

Love the way everyone says yes, but in the real world would you really.

Originally Posted by Mancie

I've never said I would turn a blind eye and don't see anyone on here saying that..and again you are insulting..are you telling me that anyone in in the real world who does not call the police for any infraction on the law is not Honourable and are scum?.. you harked back to the great depression that was getting close to a century ago and think that all was well in the down trodden? no one ever stole a loaf of bread the good old days?... it's not the same but lets turn it around.. would you tell on your grandad if he had stolen a loaf of bread?...I suspect not and even though it has not relevent to these riots it still asks the question would you call the police?

the thread was started about recent events, the first poster i quote says he would not call the police fer looting, but would mete out his own justice, that to me is turning a blind eye to whats happened, so it won't ruin the little darlings career. theres one hell of a difference between any infraction n whats happened this last week, yer avoiding the issue by throwing red herrings in mancie, even the labour government are backing the coalition n rightfully so wi this thing.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I've never said I would turn a blind eye and don't see anyone on here saying that..and again you are insulting..are you telling me that anyone in in the real world who does not call the police for any infraction on the law is not Honourable and are scum?.. you harked back to the great depression that was getting close to a century ago and think that all was well in the down trodden? no one ever stole a loaf of bread the good old days?... it's not the same but lets turn it around.. would you tell on your grandad if he had stolen a loaf of bread?...I suspect not and even though it has not relevent to these riots it still asks the question would you call the police?

Many peoples' parents/grandparents on here were affected by the great depression, so don't even attempt to dismiss it as ancient history.

A few desperate people probably did steal bread, or a shovel full of coal, so their families didn't become ill..and die.

They were desperate, but they didn't carry out mass looting, rioting, and burn their neignbours' homes down.

There's no reports Woolworth's was ransacked, with people running out with armfuls of the must have goods of the 1930's.

You're starting to sound idiotic now, as well as morally bankrupt.

If you can't see there's been a massive change in our collective psyche, you're dafter than I thought.

(Or more likely can't see it...because you think exactly like many other self-first people.)

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

Many peoples' parents/grandparents on here were affected by the great depression, so don't even attempt to dismiss it as ancient history.

A few desperate people probably did steal bread, or a shovel full of coal, so their families didn't become ill..and die.

They were desperate, but they didn't carry out mass looting, rioting, and burn their neignbours' homes down.

There's no reports Woolworth's was ransacked, with people running out with armfuls of the must have goods of the 1930's.

You're starting to sound idiotic now, as well as morally bankrupt.

If you can't see there's been a massive change in our collective psyche, you're dafter than I thought.

(Or more likely can't see it...because you think exactly like many other self-first people.)

Of course I know there's a massive difference since the late days of the real depression and I would not attempt to compare these times with the late 20's.. but I reckon you are trying to enlighten the wrong bloke .. tell all this to the tory supporters on here.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Take another look Margaret.. these are grown men ..I have no idea of what sort of parents they have.. and the posters on here who lable parents as scum have no idea.

Yes, It doesn't take a genius to spot that...and I know my lamps are dimming a bit, but I had no trouble recognising that fact......but I said in another post 'Your children will always be your children'
And if I was a parent of one of these thugs, then I would not hesitate for even a second to report them...but I would first give them the chance to hand themselves in...but if they didn't, then my actions would be clear and decisive.
I would also feel very embarrassed to think I had spawned someone who could not face up to their responsibilites. I would expect them to make reparation...and my trust in them would have to be hard earned by them.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Of course I know there's a massive difference since the late days of the real depression and I would not attempt to compare these times with the late 20's.. but I reckon you are trying to enlighten the wrong bloke .. tell all this to the tory supporters on here.

And who are these tory supporters you talk of so glibly.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

Wouldnt want to mess any future chances for my child by them possibly having a criminal conviction.

I'd suggest your child's future looks a bit 'messy' anyway.

Whether you help bring them to justice, or not.

They are a criminal.

With or without, a criminal record.

[accyman]

If my son came home with a 32" LCD tv he had looted i would be furious.

He's big enough now to lift at least a 50" LCD tv

[jaysay]

It would seem that the chickens are coming home to roost, a 25 year old woman in croydon has been in court for receiving 4 plasma TVs, camcorder, headphones etc, worth around £2000, she has a job as a carer and a child. She pleaded not guilty, then begged the court to grant her bail, because she could lose her job her home and her child may be taken off her and placed in care, she was reused bail, life's a bitch ain't it

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

It would seem that the chickens are coming home to roost, a 25 year old woman in croydon has been in court for receiving 4 plasma TVs, camcorder, headphones etc, worth around £2000, she has a job as a carer and a child. She pleaded not guilty, then begged the court to grant her bail, because she could lose her job her home and her child may be taken off her and placed in care, she was reused bail, life's a bitch ain't it

only in some cases, another was in court to be told- yeh been in custody 2 days, so thats enough n was released.

[Wynonie Harris]

Despite all the tough talking from Cameron, some of the scum are back on the streets, ready to cause more mayhem for law-abiding citizens.

UK riots: young yobs back on streets despite David Cameron's pledge - Telegraph

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Despite all the tough talking from Cameron, some of the scum are back on the streets, ready to cause more mayhem for law-abiding citizens.

UK riots: young yobs back on streets despite David Cameron's pledge - Telegraph

That tough talks only fer the cameras, yeh didn't expect owt else did yeh? remember this is owd "Hug A Hoodie"

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by cashman

That tough talks only fer the cameras, yeh didn't expect owt else did yeh? remember this is owd "Hug A Hoodie"

Don't expect owt from him, don't expect owt from Miliband, don't expect owt from the Accyweb politicos who have been conspicuous by their absence from all the recent riot threads on here.