would you support protest?

[yerself]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Maybe you posting this now would have meant a little more if you'd have done it 5 years ago, as I remember very little was don't by Blair, Brown and co in this direction when they had the chance, no, instead they chose to wreck the pension scheme for millions of people to carry on the tax and spend ethos and when that ran dry the started to borrow like there was no tomorrow

If the grocer's daughter hadn't privatised, gas, electricity, water, railways, steel etc. they might have had something left to flog off.

[Boeing Guy]

Thanks Rindi,
Back home now, I left the Morocco company last year and got this biz jet job through a old friend.
But we do spend a lot of time in those nice places.
BG

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by yerself

If the grocer's daughter hadn't privatised, gas, electricity, water, railways, steel etc. they might have had something left to flog off.

They were flogged off so Labour could inherit the best economic outlook every by any incoming government in history and they totally blew it big time

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

They were flogged off so Labour could inherit the best economic outlook every by any incoming government in history and they totally blew it big time

I did try and explain how you could save time, and energy.

Simply post this...

Originally Posted by jaysay

Usual reply.

and we'll know exactly what you mean.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

I did try and explain how you could save time, and energy.

Simply post this...



and we'll know exactly what you mean.

Sooner just jog their memories in a more informed way G

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Sooner just jog their memories in a more informed way G

What's he said now?

I just see this again...

Originally Posted by jaysay

Usual reply

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Just a thought.. the present protests in north africa and mid east against thier governments who are ruling under a minority to pay for thier way of life

Now then, Mancie, lad, you're not trying to tell us that the UK is anything like the repressive dictatorships we've seen on the news recently, are you? For all its faults, the UK is paragon of free speech and democracy compared to that lot. As for "paying for their way of life", have you ever been to a third world country? The most poverty-striken family on the worst sink estate in Britain, suffering as they might be under Cameron's cuts, is living a life of luxury compared to the proletariat in many of these North African countries.

So put that Che beret and combat jacket back in the cupboard, chuck that Guerilla Warfare Handbook back on the shelf and get yourself off down the Bermondsey Arms. The revolution won't be starting today.

"..but what can a poor boy do in sleepy London town,
'cos London just ain't no place for a streetfightin' man."

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Now then, Mancie, lad, you're not trying to tell us that the UK is anything like the repressive dictatorships we've seen on the news recently, are you? For all its faults, the UK is paragon of free speech and democracy compared to that lot. As for "paying for their way of life", have you ever been to a third world country? The most poverty-striken family on the worst sink estate in Britain, suffering as they might be under Cameron's cuts, is living a life of luxury compared to the proletariat in many of these North African countries.

So put that Che beret and combat jacket back in the cupboard, chuck that Guerilla Warfare Handbook back on the shelf and get yourself off down the Bermondsey Arms. The revolution won't be starting today.

"..but what can a poor boy do in sleepy London town,
'cos London just ain't no place for a streetfightin' man."

Brilliant post.

I.O.U. karma, but apparently it's been a give, give, give kind of a day, karma wise.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Great minds think alike...twice tonight!
Spot on Steve.

[Wynonie Harris]

Muchas gracias, Gary & Margaret.

No sign of Mancie...do you think he's gone off to join the Libyan Liberation Army (Bermondsey Division)?

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Muchas gracias, Gary & Margaret.

No sign of Mancie...do you think he's gone off to join the Libyan Liberation Army (Bermondsey Division)?

He can join em in Manchester, if he pops up to the theater of merchandising.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Muchas gracias, Gary & Margaret.

No sign of Mancie...do you think he's gone off to join the Libyan Liberation Army (Bermondsey Division)?

I've told him before to move further south.

There's no one leading the Tooting Popular Front, since I moved away.

[Eric]

Originally Posted by garinda

All successive British governments have only backed revolutions, as long as they think there'll be something in it for them.

They were still supporting Mubarak until it was clear he'd lost. Then it was jolly well done you protesters.

Brtitish governments have supported Egypt for years, despite it being a police state, with one of the worst human rights records on the planet.

Maybe British governments supported Mubarak because that was the stance taken by their buddies in Washington ... you know, those wonderful folks who gave us the Contras. Quite a lot of US made military hardware is on display in the videos. Forget about Obama's rhetoric, the US was quite content to have dictators in control. It gave a measure of stability to a volatile region; and the most important thing one wants in a country which is a major source of oil is stability. The reason that the US buys most of its oil from Canada is not the quality, nor the environmental friendliness of its extraction, but the fact that,politically, we are rock-solid stable. And do not British governments have a long history of supporting any government which is friendly to its interests? In this world, oil talks, BS walks. The BS in this case are the pronouncements of western leaders about the attempts of the entrenched to resist popular protests. What they are really thinking is: "How will all this affect the supply of oil"?

But in response to the thread question: I think that the British people should protest in the way that we and the Americans do, and this corresponds to the intent of the First Ammendment to the US Constitution. [Parliament] shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the Government for redress of grievances.

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

The most poverty-striken family on the worst sink estate in Britain, suffering as they might be under Cameron's cuts, is living a life of luxury compared to the proletariat in many of these North African countries.

Brilliant post Wyn - but you could have included the Indian sub-continent as well. Did a job in Pakistan (Lahore & Mirpur), a couple of years back. Then I realised why there are so many Pakistanis in UK.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Brilliant post Wyn - but you could have included the Indian sub-continent as well. Did a job in Pakistan (Lahore & Mirpur), a couple of years back. Then I realised why there are so many Pakistanis in UK.

I agree, as I'm sure anyone else would, who'd visited any third world countries.

Poverty is relative. I refute the figure that 13% of children in this country live in poverty, whilst there's access to clean water, education, and a social benefits system which should mean that no one dies of starvation in the U.K.

'A spokesman for the charity said: "Measuring Severe Child Poverty in the UK reveals that 13% of the UK's children are now living in severe poverty and shows that efforts to reduce child poverty have not only stalled but have slid into reverse."
Child poverty fight 'slid into reverse' - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

Sadly we do hear about cases of children living in appalling conditions. However that is child abuse, caused by feckless adults, and not as a result of real poverty.