would you support protest?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

I agree, as I'm sure anyone else would, who'd visited any third world countries.

Poverty is relative. I refute the figure that 13% of children in this country live in poverty, whilst there's access to clean water, education, and a social benefits system which should mean that no one dies of starvation in the U.K.

'A spokesman for the charity said: "Measuring Severe Child Poverty in the UK reveals that 13% of the UK's children are now living in severe poverty and shows that efforts to reduce child poverty have not only stalled but have slid into reverse."
Child poverty fight 'slid into reverse' - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

Sadly we do hear about cases of children living in appalling conditions. However that is child abuse, caused by feckless adults, and not as a result of real poverty.

Just watching BBC Breakfast news.

A report about 1.5 million UK children living in 'severe poverty', according to the charity Save the Children.

They interviewed a woman in Manchester who receives £200.00 per week, for her and her four children.

Big flat screen telly, washing machine. Sat there in tattoos, a neck full of gold necklaces, gold rings on every finger.

Compared to those living without clean water, and the threat of starvation, nevermind that an education is but a dream, this is not poverty, it's fecklessness.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Mancie

When there is massive protest here not even 8 months into Camerons ill gained premiership he fobs it off .. maybe
I should have asked the question "when would you support massive protest"? should people wait for 40yrs as in
Libya ?

Protest? A bunch of students, along with the usual fellow travellers - Socialist "Workers" (I use the term loosely), anarchists and yobs. Hardly a sign of the general population rising up in a collective rage. But then again, they're not likely to, because life here, even with our politicians' many shortcomings and Cameron's cuts, is a world away from the experience of ordinary citizens in a third world country. Why do you think so many of 'em want to come here?

And, yes, I'm well aware that there's no Bermondsey Arms. It was a tongue-in-cheek, throwaway comment and if I'd said the Old Justice or the Boatman, most Accywebbers (apart from Tealeaf) wouldn't have known what I was on about. You're not becoming one of those humourless Trotskyist types who keep trying to sell me newpapers in downtown Manchester on a Saturday afternoon, are you, Mancie?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Just watching BBC Breakfast news.

A report about 1.5 million UK children living in 'severe poverty', according to the charity Save the Children.

They interviewed a woman in Manchester who receives £200.00 per week, for her and her four children.

Big flat screen telly, washing machine. Sat there in tattoos, a neck full of gold necklaces, gold rings on every finger.

Compared to those living without clean water, and the threat of starvation, nevermind that an education is but a dream, this is not poverty, it's fecklessness.

Ya I saw the same thing G, its not so much poverty but getting your priorities right, gold necklaces and rings or food on the table, I know which came first when I was growing up

[Stumped]

Originally Posted by garinda

Just watching BBC Breakfast news.

A report about 1.5 million UK children living in 'severe poverty', according to the charity Save the Children.

They interviewed a woman in Manchester who receives £200.00 per week, for her and her four children.

Big flat screen telly, washing machine. Sat there in tattoos, a neck full of gold necklaces, gold rings on every finger.

Compared to those living without clean water, and the threat of starvation, nevermind that an education is but a dream, this is not poverty, it's fecklessness.

I heartily agree. Cruise any rental area where the bulk of the occupants are unemployed and you can't help but notice the glut of four-by-fours and Sky dishes! According to the Daily Express the government are set to turn their spite on the elderly by abolishing bus passes and the winter fuel allowance. Perhaps the wrinklies (myself included) will lead the nation in taking to the streets!

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Stumped

Cruise any rental area where the bulk of the occupants are unemployed

This is where we disagree.

I forget you have the advantage over me.

Being able to read the 'Unemployed' tattoo on people's forheads.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

And, yes, I'm well aware that there's no Bermondsey Arms. It was a tongue-in-cheek, throwaway comment and if I'd said the Old Justice or the Boatman, most Accywebbers (apart from Tealeaf) wouldn't have known what I was on about. You're not becoming one of those humourless Trotskyist types who keep trying to sell me newpapers in downtown Manchester on a Saturday afternoon, are you, Mancie?

Not at all mate...downtown Manchester?..umm is that near Old Trafford?

[garinda]

I've always imagined Mancie hard at it, up a White Bull, or even relaxiing in a Queen's Arms, hardly protesting at all. Merry in ale.

Never in slumped in a Boatman.

Funny really.

The thoughts that flash through your head.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Stumped

I heartily agree. Cruise any rental area where the bulk of the occupants are unemployed and you can't help but notice the glut of four-by-fours and Sky dishes! According to the Daily Express the government are set to turn their spite on the elderly by abolishing bus passes and the winter fuel allowance. Perhaps the wrinklies (myself included) will lead the nation in taking to the streets!

I am employed, I was walking into a Post office to post an item for work.

Some Simple Simon with the same Mindset as yourself, shouted from the window of a rusty Transit van, "Go on you Basketweaver, cash your giro, you lot are a pile of excreta".

I replied that he should really get a life, (similar to yourself), I rent a property, I am in advance with my rent, I have a sky dish outside but I use Virgin, (much faster), you really are pathetic, is it jealousy?

I see no reason you should be jealous of me, but I can see that someone with half a brain, that works hard, could turn you into the spiteful person you are.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Stumped

Cruise any rental area

By the way, why would you want to cruise a rental area?

Decent folk leave us alone.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Less

By the way, why would you want to cruise a rental area?

They're having a crackdown on people cruising around the streets, checking other people out.

The police are collecting registration numbers of those that do it, and send warning letters to their homes.

'Honest love.'

'I was only driving so slow, peering out the window, trying to work out if they were on the game...not game!

'Dole!'

'Scroungers on the dole.'

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Not at all mate...downtown Manchester?..umm is that near Old Trafford?

Wouldn't know, Mancie,never been there. Perhaps one of your cockney compatriots might know?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Not at all mate...downtown Manchester?..umm is that near Old Trafford?

Thats the question thoudsands of Plastic Mancs ask every day of the week

[Barrie Yates]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Not at all mate...downtown Manchester?..umm is that near Old Trafford?

No Mancie - it is Wastelands

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

No Mancie - it is Wastelands

Well the Theatre of Merchandising is like a refugee camp on match days, they come from all over and pee the locals off

[Stumped]

Originally Posted by garinda

This is where we disagree.

I forget you have the advantage over me.

Being able to read the 'Unemployed' tattoo on people's forheads.

Perhaps I should have said "Are known to be unemployed by choice." My comments are merely an observation based on experience, not an attempt to undermine or demean any particular section of society.