yesterdays observer

[garinda]

Originally Posted by spinner

you know full well that im talkin about the so called people who call themselves leaders and quote c cliches so that they can celebrate my culture to obtain grants . they are opportunist and their influence permeates most aspects of authority including the police . ifind this v.dangerous thats why im angry

Sorry you've lost me.

Community groups, like the one who applied for the grant?

[WillowTheWhisp]

Strange that you seem to feel you have the right to speak on behalf of all people who share your culture and yet object to anyone who may actually also be of the same ethnic background wanting to share the culture with others and celebrate diversity. Did anyone appoint you as their spokesperson?

[spinner]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Strange that you seem to feel you have the right to speak on behalf of all people who share your culture and yet object to anyone who may actually also be of the same ethnic background wanting to share the culture with others and celebrate diversity. Did anyone appoint you as their spokesperson?

im not on an official platform representing my community trying to get newspaper coverage at any opportunity. asian people are not uniform in their thoughts so i have never called myself a leader unlike those people

[garinda]

Accrington-based Scaitcliffe Community Centre will be dishing up a programme of community activities with their 'Step-2-It' project, today receiving £129,165. Step-2-It will train and recruit community food workers and exercise instructors to deliver after school cooking and gardening clubs, along with workshops that will cover growing and cooking, healthy lifestyles, and exercise. The project aims to celebrate the diversity of food cultures in different ethnic groups, bringing people together from different backgrounds to learn about each other’s dietary habits and traditional dishes.


http://www.biglotteryfund.org.uk/hi/...regioncode=-nw

[WillowTheWhisp]

Originally Posted by spinner

ethnic minorites have had enough of so called community leaders at scaitcliffe apparently representing our lives.

Originally Posted by spinner

im not on an official platform representing my community trying to get newspaper coverage at any opportunity. asian people are not uniform in their thoughts so i have never called myself a leader unlike those people

Well make your mind up because one minute you are declaring what 'ethnic minorities' are fed up with and the next minute you say you're not representing your communty and people are not uniform in their thoughts. You can't have it both ways.

Personally I have enough respect for individuals to prefer your latter statement. How you felt that you could speak on behalf of all ethnic minorities is beyond me. Have Chinese/Japanese/Vietnamese/Polish/Jewish people elected you as their spokeperson? Indeed has any group elected you as their spokesperson?

Originally Posted by spinner

you know full well that im talkin about the so called people who call themselves leaders and quote c cliches so that they can celebrate my culture to obtain grants . they are opportunist and their influence permeates most aspects of authority including the police . ifind this v.dangerous thats why im angry

Why do you resent other ethnic groups learning about your culture and heritage? Why would that be? Surely it is more fun for us all to learn from each other and enjoy the good in each other's culture. I would consider it more dangerous to be isolationist and believe that no-one should learn anything from anyone else.

[Gayle]

Still can't see what the problem is here. If the community centre had obtained the funds illegally and if you had hard evidence of that then I can understand people's concern. However, this is not the case, the community centre has applied for a funding grant for a project which they feel is worthwhile (as does the Big Lottery it would appear) and they've been granted the funding. That should be 'end of'!

The funding pot that this was obtained from was Reaching Communities - it's main purpose to reach communities that other organisations etc would not be able to. This could be geographical, disadvantaged, disabled, ethnic minorities, etc.

To be honest, Scaitcliffe house have done a good job if they've got money out of this pot because justifying the criteria was so tricky that it was hard to apply for. At the end of the day that's £129k more money in Hyndburn's economy which has to be a good thing.

No one has given any good reasons for why this should not have been given to this group apart from a few 'possibly slanderous' slurs!

[spinner]

Originally Posted by Gayle

No one has given any good reasons for why this should not have been given to this group apart from a few 'possibly slanderous' slurs!

did i actually say that the money was being pocketed by certain people. no if i think that the money is not spent appropriately that is an opinion how can it be slander

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by spinner

did i actually say that the money was being pocketed by certain people. no if i think that the money is not spent appropriately that is an opinion how can it be slander

We'll start with your second post.

Originally Posted by spinner

i wlii believe it when i see it. the usual selection of people will be offered these instructor jobs and i bet there will be no thourough programme to implement these measures. goodness knows how that money will be distributed as when i read the paper scaitcliffe regularly recieves ample moneies for so called refurbishement. how is it that it is still not refurbished. re the olymipics ,money has to be allocated there regardless so instead of wasting it on scaitcliffe why not spend it there . at least the results are going to be spectacular and it will be a chance to showoff the uk to the world. i would prefer this than lining the already rich walls of scaitcliffe. ethnic minorites have had enough of so called community leaders at scaitcliffe apparently representing our lives.

Apart from your ridiculous rant about the Olympics in the middle, I suspect that people from Scaitcliffe could take offense at the way you describe them and the implications of the way they spend their money.

[WillowTheWhisp]

There's also an implication that the only people who live in Scaitcliffe are the so-called ethnic minorities (I hate that phrase) - another erroneous statement.

[garinda]

129 grand, compared with an estimated cost of five billion pounds, will probably just about cover the cost of breakfast cereals for the Nigerian Olympic team.

Though I'm still at a loss as to how this grant for a local group has anything to do with London 2012 Olympic games.

Totally different things.

[spinner]

garinda the olympics was supposed to be funded by the lottery thats the link

[garinda]

Originally Posted by spinner

garinda the olympics was supposed to be funded by the lottery thats the link

The estimated 5.1 million for London 2012, is being funded by the government, and not the Lottery good causes scheme.

That's if they can lay their hands on it, and if it doesn't keep spiralling out of control.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/pol...cle2237696.ece

[garinda]

The Lottery is hoping to raise 750 million towards the 2012 games. A relative small amount of the estimated 5.1 billion cost.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6323025.stm

[garinda]

Looks like Hyndburn has also recently secured nearly half a million pound funding for a domestic violence initiative.

'Hyndburn and Ribble Valley Domestic Violence Forum in Lancashire, will soon be launching a £487,770 outreach project to provide professional and legal support, crisis intervention, and improved physical security for those at risk.'

http://www.biglotteryfund.org.uk/pr_...regioncode=-uk


I'm sure there'll be someone moaning about them getting that.

Not me. I chose not to play the Lottery, and as such wish everyone who secures funding from it, the best of luck.

[spinner]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Why do you resent other ethnic groups learning about your culture and heritage? Why would that be? Surely it is more fun for us all to learn from each other and enjoy the good in each other's culture. I would consider it more dangerous to be isolationist and believe that no-one should learn anything from anyone else.

im not against anyone learning about my culture which incidently isnt about samosa parties when did i ever say im against learning about different cultures which can be done in so many ways. i also have never tried to be a spokesperson for the asian community i just voiced some popular opinions in my community