Yet another dog kills a child...

[garinda]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

You will see thousands of dogs that could look like a pit pull but arnt.

If the guy had a Rotty, mastiff, great dane, dobermain that he trained to attack would it be any differnt?

Driving with out Insurance, just look in the observer to see at least 3 a week, unfortunatly it is to comman practace, the introduction of the MID will help reduce this though.

That's one reason I've refrained from using the words Pit Bull too often, is that the law is again indistinct on this area of what type of dogs are illegal.

As for driving without insurance being ok because it's widely practised, it's not. They are scum too, and I would bang them up, rather than issue a fine less than actual insurance itself.

The law in both cases is an ass.

[garinda]

An account of living in New York, where dogs are also not licenced.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/9_2_scared_of_pit.html

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by steeljack

all this talk about what is and what isnt a pit bull , reminds me of the Judge who said he could not define pornography , but knew it when he saw it.

Funnly most people probably dont know what a pit bull looks like.

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Fin...itbull_v3.html

[Tinkerbelle]

Rind your preaching American law. It has more flaws than ours what do you expect?

[Vicks]

I think you definetly are jumping to conclusions here Garinda. Lets face it, this was a fatal incident but how many case are there of owners who have kept the dogs when they have snapped or nipped at any child or adult (fair enough not to the extinct of this attack, at least not on this occasion) but once a dog even turns on any human child or adult there should be no questions asked no matter how much the dog is loved it should be put down. Perhaps if owners put others before their own feelings then perhaps some of these fatal incidents could be avoided all together!

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by garinda

That's one reason I've refrained from using the words Pit Bull too often, is that the law is again indistinct on this area of what type of dogs are illegal.

As for driving without insurance being ok because it's widely practised, it's not. They are scum too, and I would bang them up, rather than issue a fine less than actual insurance itself.

The law in both cases is an ass.

What would you suggest should be done.

I never said driving without insurance is ok.

The law is to lenient on uninsured motorists I agree, but the belt is tightening.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Rind your preaching American law. It has more flaws than ours what do you expect?

The account shows how the laws here are being flouted, and the dangers that opens up here too, both here and in the US.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

What would you suggest should be done?

Bring back dog licences for a start, and make people more responsible for the good training and behaviour of their dogs, and make sure the law is upheld.

The same sort of stringent measures as gun control really.

I don't want chav scum to have guns, and I don't want them having dangerous dogs, purely because of their status.

[cherokee]

but dog licenses didnt work the first time round why should they work now .. local authorities just dont keep up with the system

[Tinkerbelle]

Originally Posted by garinda

The account shows how the laws here are being flouted, and the dangers that opens up here too, both here and in the US.

Yes, and it sucks! The only thing is no matter how how much the law is enforced I think the 'scum' element of society will always breed potential killers. They will find ways to flout and find loop holes in our Dangerous Dog Act. Today it's pit bulls but what breed or hybrid will be next?

[Vicks]

We could always throw all the people driving without insurance and all owners of pit bull's in to a big pit and see who come's out fighting! As our prisons are already overcrowded; Or maybe it would be wiser to eduacate people on the facts, surrounding the reasons behind these types of dogs being banned. As well as the seriousness and effects of driving without insurance has on others, not to mention putting the insurance prices up for the ones who do actually pay insurance. After all it is the ones who obey the rules who are penalised (that seems really fair to me!)

[cherokee]

Its a bit like cock fighting its illegal but still happens and is widespread ..it wont go away niether will the scums that breed and keep such dogs for same reason .unfortunately chavs seem to think its trendy and macho to keep these animals and then beat them to a pulp when the dog bites them

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Yes, and it sucks! The only thing is no matter how how much the law is enforced I think the 'scum' element of society will always breed potential killers. They will find ways to flout and find loop holes in our Dangerous Dog Act. Today it's pit bulls but what breed or hybrid will be next?

That will be the Wolf then.

[***Mr D***]

Originally Posted by Vicks

We could always throw all the people driving without insurance and all owners of pit bull's in to a big pit and see who come's out fighting! As our prisons are already overcrowded; Or maybe it would be wiser to eduacate people on the facts, surrounding the reasons behind these types of dogs being banned. As well as the seriousness and effects of driving without insurance has on others, not to mention putting the insurance prices up for the ones who do actually pay insurance. After all it is the ones who obey the rules who are penalised (that seems really fair to me!)

Maybe educate people more on dogs in general, not again just target the banned breeds.

Insurance well thats another debate.

[Church Boy]

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Some of the quotation tags are going awol in this thread making it hard to follow who said what. (sorry for thread wander)

Very Sorry Prescious.