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11-10-2007, 21:42
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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11-10-2007, 21:46
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Re: mechanical aptitude
Hmm, thanks Neil, but I still can't find an illustration of a planetary gear system where the inner cog wheels keep turning when the outer one is held still. How can they?
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11-10-2007, 21:47
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Re: mechanical aptitude
I only got 56%. Don't bring your car to me when it goes wrong.
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11-10-2007, 21:52
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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I only got 56%. Don't bring your car to me when it goes wrong.
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he he he, you'll do a better job than me westender
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11-10-2007, 21:52
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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I got 94%
It does tell you which you got wrong and it even got one answer wrong itself. Well not so much wrong as having two correct answers and only selecting one of them as correct and of course the other one became incorrect.
Q48 – In a naturally aspirated engine, air enters the cylinder because of
Their answer – From atmospheric pressure pushing it in.
I selected from suction caused by the piston going down, which is the same thing. In fact it is probably more correct than their answer.
The piston moves down and tries to create a vacuum which is equalised by the air pushing in from outside. If the piston didn’t move down there would be nowhere for the air to rush in. The piston doesn’t move down because of the air rushing in but because the crankshaft is still rotating after ignition and pulls it down, thus creating a vacuum, which is equalised by the air rushing in.
So my score should have been 96%.
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11-10-2007, 21:55
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Re: mechanical aptitude
Wow! Well done, Jambutty.
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11-10-2007, 21:56
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Re: mechanical aptitude
Willow, the fact that the three small wheels are teh same size allows it to keep moving. if one was a different size then it would lock up as it would be trying to move faster than teh others which wouldn't be possible. as it is each is trying to move in exactly teh same direction and speed so it 'works'
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11-10-2007, 21:58
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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he he he, you'll do a better job than me westender
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Hey, Cashman, between the 2 of us we got 96%. Maybe if we worked together we could
****** it up completely.
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11-10-2007, 22:02
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Re: mechanical aptitude
68% but I am useless at theory so I am suprised.
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11-10-2007, 22:08
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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Hmm, thanks Neil, but I still can't find an illustration of a planetary gear system where the inner cog wheels keep turning when the outer one is held still. How can they?
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Because all the internal gears are free to move laterally as well as rotating.
I can’t think of anywhere where such a configuration could be used though.
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11-10-2007, 22:10
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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Wow! Well done, Jambutty.
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Thanks Lilly but someone of my age and experience in mechanical and electrical engineering should have got 100%, it was that easy.
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11-10-2007, 22:10
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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Originally Posted by jambutty
Q48 – In a naturally aspirated engine, air enters the cylinder because of
Their answer – From atmospheric pressure pushing it in.
I selected from suction caused by the piston going down, which is the same thing. In fact it is probably more correct than their answer.
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I chose suction too and I'm still convinced that is more right than their answer but I can see the logic of 'air pushing into a vacuum' but to my logic air is sucked into a vacuum.
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Willow, the fact that the three small wheels are teh same size allows it to keep moving. if one was a different size then it would lock up as it would be trying to move faster than teh others which wouldn't be possible. as it is each is trying to move in exactly teh same direction and speed so it 'works'
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If the outer rim didn't have cogs then I would agree with you Ian, but the cogs in the outer rim are locked into the cogs in those three small 'planetary' wheels which in turn are locked into the central 'sun'. In any series of gears if one of the cogwheels is held rigid then it prevents the movement of any wheel it interlocks with. So I still say they couldn't possibly move. Now if that outer rim was smooth then of course the three planetary wheels would slide effortlessly within it and their answer would apply, but the rim in the image is not smooth.
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11-10-2007, 22:12
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Re: mechanical aptitude
Cancel that! I've just had a rethink. I can now visualise them going on a wander within the outer wheel!
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11-10-2007, 22:13
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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I chose suction too and I'm still convinced that is more right than their answer but I can see the logic of 'air pushing into a vacuum' but to my logic air is sucked into a vacuum.
If the outer rim didn't have cogs then I would agree with you Ian, but the cogs in the outer rim are locked into the cogs in those three small 'planetary' wheels which in turn are locked into the central 'sun'. In any series of gears if one of the cogwheels is held rigid then it prevents the movement of any wheel it interlocks with. So I still say they couldn't possibly move. Now if that outer rim was smooth then of course the three planetary wheels would slide effortlessly within it and their answer would apply, but the rim in the image is not smooth.
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That's decided it - I'm definately not gonna look
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11-10-2007, 22:14
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Re: mechanical aptitude
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Don't read this if you still want to try the quiz. If you've already done it then please scroll down.
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agree with you on this , that was my thought (seized up gearbox)
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