Home security week!! How secure is your home? - Page 2

simon · 12-01-2006, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

I don't think I've ever seen a good wooden door on a customers house , they all have crappy panels that are about four mm thick around the edge. What you think to the steel doors ?

Steel doors are very strong but only as good as there fixings to the wall. But they are never going to rival wood or plastic are they???

I agree that people do always go for the cheapest ... But pound for pound wood is 300% better than plastic.......

Harwood red ..... A plastic door is 50mm wide, 1.5mm plastic with lots of fresh air in the middle.. so the screws that look nice from the edge are only holding on to the door by 1.5mm... That will pull out for fun.... I see it every day.

A wooden door is 45mm thick and your screws hold for their full length. If the door is made of hardwood and a good lock with the correct screws... bingo the crook will bounce back..........

And plastic doors have a lot of other weaknesses that wood does not..

Plastic are easy and trendy but strong NEVER................(well £1200 on an Angian door is quite good)

But still not a patch on a good lump of wood..

harwood red · 12-01-2006, 23:09

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Originally Posted by simon

Harwood red ..... A plastic door is 50mm wide, 1.5mm plastic with lots of fresh air in the middle.. so the screws that look nice from the edge are only holding on to the door by 1.5mm... That will pull out for fun.... I see it every day.

A wooden door is 45mm thick and your screws hold for their full length. If the door is made of hardwood and a good lock with the correct screws... bingo the crook will bounce back..........

And plastic doors have a lot of other weaknesses that wood does not..

Plastic are easy and trendy but strong NEVER................(well £1200 on an Angian door is quite good)

But still not a patch on a good lump of wood..

Errr how come my name got a mention here simon??? I wouldn't and haven't questioned your security authority!!!!!

simon · 12-01-2006, 23:18

SORRY Harwood red.......................... I read the replys too fast and came away thinking you had posted that when it was MADhatter

I must read all post properly before posting

I will do the rest in private so as not to bore you all

I must read all post properly before posting

harwood red · 12-01-2006, 23:22

Glad you thought I might have the knowledge to actually post something along the lines that madhatter has posted.

Me... I get key, put in lock, turn and either open or lock it!!! That's about as clever I get as far as securing my door!!

Although have been burgled twice and since put in extra security including alarm and have had no trouble since. Would like to point out that they did try to get through the back WOODEN door but were unsuccessful (double mortice lock you see!!) so they knackered the only wooden windows I had left in the property and literally took the whole frame out!

slinky · 12-01-2006, 23:24

My only worry is how safe my back door is........and I can confidently say......my Back door is as safe as houses. It's not wooden,but,it's damn well safe.

harwood red · 12-01-2006, 23:26

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Originally Posted by slinky

My only worry is how safe my back door is........and I can confidently say......my Back door is as safe as houses. It's not wooden,but,it's damn well safe.

But the question is if it's as safe as houses... how safe are those houses really????

Madhatter · 12-01-2006, 23:26

Well I don't agree, If the doors solid then the frame is usually soft rubbish that splits. Once the doors closed and its locked how are the screws going to pull out. boot hell out of a plastic door and it just bounces back, do the same to wood and somethin will split.

slinky · 12-01-2006, 23:27

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Originally Posted by harwood red

But the question is if it's as safe as houses... how safe are those houses really????

If those houses are as safe as my back door......they are very..very safe

Madhatter · 12-01-2006, 23:27

yes slinky i'm sure it is, can I have a key?

slinky · 12-01-2006, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

yes slinky i'm sure it is, can I have a key?

No............no-one gets the key to my back door

simon · 12-01-2006, 23:46

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

Well I don't agree, If the doors solid then the frame is usually soft rubbish that splits. Once the doors closed and its locked how are the screws going to pull out. boot hell out of a plastic door and it just bounces back, do the same to wood and somethin will split.

Well we will just have to disagree.... But my job is to make things secure and my doors are wood

When I get called out to a lock-out and it is a wooden door with a good mortice lock...It is Not easy and usually takes 5-10 minutes.......When It is a upvc door I love it because it is ALWAYS easy and takes 2mins. Now fair enough that is not the same way that JO BURGLAR gets in... But what I know about opening mortice locks, I doubt any thief that is not driving a bentley knows

BUT many JO BURGLARS know the weaknesses to plastic doors

I just a few days ago had the need to BREAK in to someones house for health reasons...Lock picking was not an option....After 15mins of serious kicking, sledge hammering, crow barring and a pick axe we failed..........So due to the rush we went through the glass...

The door was a hardwood door with one BS3621 deadlock and a softwood frame....... And we were REALLY trying someones life was at stake....

simon · 12-01-2006, 23:47

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Originally Posted by slinky

No............no-one gets the key to my back door

Well I dont need a key Slinky

slinky · 12-01-2006, 23:48

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Originally Posted by simon

Well I dont need a key Slinky

THATS SCARY

slinky · 12-01-2006, 23:50

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Originally Posted by simon

The door was a hardwood door with one BS3621 dreadlock.

So did the door have a nice Afro??

Madhatter · 12-01-2006, 23:53

Well explain how the plastic is so weak, but I don't think it's a good idea to post it in here I think we've said too much as it, we'll prob get a load of chavs reading up on how to do it which defeats the object of the thread.