Home security week!! How secure is your home? - Page 3

Madhatter · 12-01-2006, 23:54

ha, simon your typings nearly as bad as my spelling

simon · 12-01-2006, 23:55

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Originally Posted by slinky

So did the door have a nice Afro??

I cant believe I put that

(i didnt) It was painted green and orange and had a spliff hanging out of the letterbox.......and a huge door handle

harwood red · 12-01-2006, 23:58

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Originally Posted by simon

I cant believe I put that

It was painted green and orange and had a spliff hanging out of the letterbox.......and a huge door handle

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Originally Posted by slinky

So did the door have a nice Afro??

WOW, slinks you are on the ball, only just got that one and now can't stop giggling

SPUGGIE J · 13-01-2006, 10:07

Enjoyed reading this and got a good giggle. I have a solid wood front door with 5 point mortice which is that heavy the kids struggle with it. My verandrah one is the same set up but plastic. A point to note for the wooden one is that when the police were trying to break into a suspected drug suppliers house with the same kind of door they struggled the same with the verandrah door so I would say that "judging a book by its cover" could aply here.

SPUGGIE J · 13-01-2006, 10:09

Before anyone askes the police had to go in through a window which I believe was hillariuos to those watching.

Madhatter · 13-01-2006, 23:56

Interesting spuggie

Neil · 14-01-2006, 08:22

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Originally Posted by simon

I just a few days ago had the need to BREAK in to someones house for health reasons...Lock picking was not an option....After 15mins of serious kicking, sledge hammering, crow barring and a pick axe we failed..........So due to the rush we went through the glass...

I still have a little chuckle when I think of Simon trying to kick that door down. After charging 25 feet and kicking it failed so did the sledgehammer. Crowbar just split the frame. Even after all that hammering I would not want to try and break in again. We think the dado rail screwed to the wall between the outside door and inside door was preventing the frame from splitting.

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

Well I don't agree, If the doors solid then the frame is usually soft rubbish that splits. Once the doors closed and its locked how are the screws going to pull out. boot hell out of a plastic door and it just bounces back, do the same to wood and somethin will split.

Have a look on a plastic door what actually locks it. Most have a few locking points up the frame. These are usually nasty little metal brackets that would fail without that much effort. I know how to break into plastic doors, it is amazing easy and have seen the end result. I could make the equipment required in under an hour.

I have 2 wooden doors. If I had plastic I would definately get Simon to do what is required to make them secure. I have been broken into before and it is not nice. It's not the things that are taken, thats what insurance is for. It's seeing the look on your wife's face when she hears a bang and thinks its happening again that makes you want to secure your home.

Madhatter · 14-01-2006, 21:56

Still not convinced, whats the difference between a multi point lock on a plastic door and a single mortice on a wooden door? how can the multi point lock possibly be less secure, how can the plastic split?. whats the difference between a multipoint lock on a wooden door and a multi point lock on a pvc door.

Madhatter · 14-01-2006, 22:01

You think it was the dado rail, so it wasnt the wooden door then? if it was a plastic door with the same dado rail you'd have got in easy would you ?

simon · 14-01-2006, 22:39

Madhatter........... You have already stated that it would not be wise to highlight the weakness of 100,000's of doors in this country on a public website.... If you dont believe me then sorry.. If you have a plastic door and want me to come and break-in just YELL

simon · 14-01-2006, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Madhatter

You think it was the dado rail, so it wasnt the wooden door then? if it was a plastic door with the same dado rail you'd have got in easy would you ?

My neighbour is replacing his damaged door with a plastic one, and regardless of how many locking points, if the situation occurs again I will be in in less than a minute.....NO damage

Madhatter · 15-01-2006, 03:04

no damage at all, this is with a door that has a frame screwed to the the bricks, a door with hinges and five point locking fixing it in the frame, and a euro cylinder, the handle locks the locking points open, the cylinder locks the handle. the only way to release it is dissable the cylinder, and you can do that with no damage what so ever.

Madhatter · 15-01-2006, 03:08

I know of a weakness, but that weakness would be the same if that locking system were fitted in a wooden door, and as the wooden door will break easier than a pvc door I stand by my opinion that a pvc door is moor secure. I don't have a pvc door and would never have one if i had a choice, or pvc windows, I dont like them, never have, never will, but I believe they are more secure.

Neil · 15-01-2006, 06:21

Madhatter I think you are trying to find out how to break in to plastic doors. I get the feeling simon won't be telling anyone how to do it, don't you? I know because I assisted him with a rather funny test regarding plastic doors. I will also say that for less than the excess on your insurance policy your plastic door could be secured.

simon · 15-01-2006, 12:13

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Originally Posted by Neil

Madhatter I think you are trying to find out how to break in to plastic doors.

I was thinking the same Neil

Madhatter I have a spare set of lock picks if ya want e'm