lost dialect - Page 11

Royboy39 · 30-03-2008, 15:22

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Bernard and Ivy were good friends of mine Roy, although they were only ever stand in stewards at the Con. I'm the logest serving member of Ossy Con, been member since I was 16 (young conservative, then full member at 18) although it is now known as Ossy Social club, but still retains its Con Club status, The Nash (Straights club) is still open but I haven't been in for years, my neighbour up stairs Jack Whatmore still goes in occasionally. The only other club still open in Ossy is the Stanhill club, although St. Marys church have a social club on Lock Street, near the Town Hall and there is Church cricket club as well

Thanks for that. Bernard and I go back a long way...I knew him when his sister Esther and her husband Jim had the Old Mother Redcap, Bernard and Ivy then had the Crescent in Blackburn.....You will probably know Raymon Hacking who did the stocktaking at the Con? Raymon and I used to be at Thwaites in the middle seventies.

jaysay · 30-03-2008, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Royboy39

Thanks for that. Bernard and I go back a long way...I knew him when his sister Esther and her husband Jim had the Old Mother Redcap, Bernard and Ivy then had the Crescent in Blackburn.....You will probably know Raymon Hacking who did the stocktaking at the Con? Raymon and I used to be at Thwaites in the middle seventies.

Yay know Raymond very well Roy, but havn't seen him for a while. I can remember when the Rovers won the Prem at Anfield and it showed Rovers the fans, Raymond was right in the middle of them. Its a few years now since Bernard died, you lose track of time, must be 4 or 5 years ago, we used to pull his leg, he kept getting gout, he was a real nice bloke and I used to like being in his company, a real charactor and sadly missed

bonny_tuesday · 07-08-2008, 07:40

My mum used to get her 'donkey stone' from the rag and bone man. He used to come down the street with his horse and cart, it was a lovely animal, very placid and well looked after.
He used to shout 'eeeee rag boneeeeoooooohhhh' and everybody used to go running outside to see what he had on offer.
It could have been a spinning top, a stick with a piece of string on it as a fishing rod!! this was in the heart of built up Patricroft in Eccles, not a river or brook anywyere for a few miles!, and for the girls you could get a feather on a piece of string hanging off a stick (dont know what they were).
You could get donkey stones all of which could be either bought or exchanged for your old clothes or bric-a-brac.
An old fashioned way of recycling!

garinda · 07-08-2008, 07:45

Another odd word got me wondering about it's origin yesterday.

Pow'd.

As in 'I went to that new barbers, and he pow'd me', meaning it was cut very short.

Prisoner of War, up on the moors?

Anyone else heard the term?

MargaretR · 07-08-2008, 08:35

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Originally Posted by garinda

Another odd word got me wondering about it's origin yesterday.

Pow'd.

As in 'I went to that new barbers, and he pow'd me', meaning it was cut very short.

Prisoner of War, up on the moors?

Anyone else heard the term?

My dad used that term often , but I never thought to ask about its origin - think it predates the POW camp at Stanhill

MargaretR · 07-08-2008, 08:47

PS - found pow on the list here-
Lancashire Dialect Glossary

jaysay · 07-08-2008, 10:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda

Another odd word got me wondering about it's origin yesterday.

Pow'd.

As in 'I went to that new barbers, and he pow'd me', meaning it was cut very short.

Prisoner of War, up on the moors?

Anyone else heard the term?

Just wondering, could it have something to do with the barbers Pole that used to be outside their shops. I can remember Jim Kershaw's shop, at the top of Monarch Street, Opposite the Civic Theatre, had one of these red and white striped poles outside, but you don't seem to see them anymore

Royboy39 · 07-08-2008, 21:36

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Originally Posted by bonny_tuesday

and for the girls you could get a feather on a piece of string hanging off a stick (dont know what they were).

Ken Dodd fans could give you the answer to that one

Benipete · 07-08-2008, 21:56

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Originally Posted by bonny_tuesday

My mum used to get her 'donkey stone' from the rag and bone man. He used to come down the street with his horse and cart, it was a lovely animal, very placid and well looked after.
He used to shout 'eeeee rag boneeeeoooooohhhh' and everybody used to go running outside to see what he had on offer.
It could have been a spinning top, a stick with a piece of string on it as a fishing rod!! this was in the heart of built up Patricroft in Eccles, not a river or brook anywyere for a few miles!, and for the girls you could get a feather on a piece of string hanging off a stick (dont know what they were).
You could get donkey stones all of which could be either bought or exchanged for your old clothes or bric-a-brac.
An old fashioned way of recycling!

The piece of string on a stick was the whip that went with the spinning top.(whip & top)

Retlaw · 07-08-2008, 22:19

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

PS - found pow on the list here-
Lancashire Dialect Glossary

Had a look at the site, noticed a few that weren't quite how we used them round here.

Badger. - Butchers shop, there was one in Butchers Alley in Accrington, his old Badge Book is in the archives at Accrington Library.

Bantering. - pulling peoples leg.

Conked - as in th'engines conked out.

Powfagged - as in tired and worn out. IE Jiggered - Buggered .

Retlaw.

Royboy39 · 07-08-2008, 22:38

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Originally Posted by Retlaw

Had a look at the site, noticed a few that weren't quite how we used them round here.

Badger. - does badger not mean...pester?
Bantering. - I think that means in modern terms...Banter without cross words.

Conked - as in th'engines conked out.

Powfagged - as in tired and worn out. IE Jiggered - Buggered .Knackered

Retlaw.

All down to interpretation.

garinda · 08-08-2008, 00:03

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

PS - found pow on the list here-
Lancashire Dialect Glossary

It seems to have come down from C16th Scotland, where pow/poll meant head, and is mentioned in this song. There's quite a few other people providing evidence that pow is Scottish for head, on the linked site.

Dainty Davie
as recorded by Finbar and Eddie Furey

In yonder town there lived a maid
Ah, she was the keeper of her trade
She fell in love with a light brigade
And his name was Dainty Davie

Chorus [after each verse]:
So, leeze me on your curly pow
Dainty Davie, Dainty Davie,
Oh, leeze me on your curly pow,
You are my Dainty Davie.

My love, my love, my love, brine he
I have the longing for the sea
I'll go defend my country
Say farewell to Dainty Davie

Three days and seven years were gone
When she saw this figure came striding on
Oh she knew it was her own true one
Saying, come kiss me, Dainty Davie

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garinda · 08-08-2008, 00:42

I suppose if you did have a short haircut your pow would be exposed.

pows - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

MoreJoe · 28-09-2008, 01:14

Slightly off topic for all you marble players out there.
Some types of marbles:
Agate
Blood Alleys
Glass Alleys
Glassies
Steelies (Ball Bearings)
Cat Farts (Brown cheap semi plastic)
And more....

steeljack · 28-09-2008, 01:41

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Originally Posted by MoreJoe

Slightly off topic for all you marble players out there.
Some types of marbles:

Steelies (Ball Bearings)

And more....

in Arrod we called 'Steelies" .......Iron Bobbers