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Old 24-06-2008, 20:04   #1
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Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

found this

http://www.m-shell.net/Default.aspx

it allows you to 'program' your phone really easily to do anything you like

for those with Programming experience its VERY easy and very powerful.

It does beg something that struck me about phones and evidence in criminal cases though. I can program it to answer a call or even make one at a predetermined time and play a 'pre recorded' message. I could leave the phone somewhere and still 'make a call' the cell info would have 'proved' I was somewhere I might not have been.

What do you reckon....
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Old 24-06-2008, 21:14   #2
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

The same has existed for windows mobile in the SDK for a while..Dont know if its ever been tested in case law.
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Old 24-06-2008, 22:42   #3
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im sure some tech would find evidence of the software been installed at some point by performing file recovery on the data disk
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Old 25-06-2008, 06:55   #4
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

but they wouldn't if I flashed the firmware after the event( as is quite easy to do with Nokias) The flash memory woulde be clear and a 'second' memory card with teh same data minus teh mshell stuff would look identical to the phone
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Old 25-06-2008, 06:58   #5
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

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The same has existed for windows mobile in the SDK for a while..Dont know if its ever been tested in case law.

Out of interest, I'm going to have a switch to Windows mobile for a change when the HTC Touch Pro comes out, do you have any experience of it? Whats good freeeware/shareware etc is there? Any absolute must haves?

I've collected loads of stuff for Symbian over teh last 2 and a bit years,
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Old 25-06-2008, 07:19   #6
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Out of interest, I'm going to have a switch to Windows mobile for a change when the HTC Touch Pro comes out, do you have any experience of it?

Its very poor, I flashed mine with Linux
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Old 25-06-2008, 10:57   #7
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

good on you, Can youwrite a quick howto so I can do teh same?

Or I could wait for the openmoko project to release theirs
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Old 25-06-2008, 17:25   #8
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

Last three phones were an orbit, orbit II (touch cruise) and stellar (TYTN II). All three were slow out of the box, but goto forum.xda-developers.com for loads of info, roms and apps. Recommend a lot of the HTC stuff if it doesnt come preloaded on the phone.

Next one is iphone 3g on 11th July so I guess Ill be going the other way from you.
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Old 25-06-2008, 17:48   #9
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

You will not be happy with windows mobile. It is pants. I agree with banjoman though, if you get a HTC definitely go to xda-developers as it is full of useful windows mobile tuning goodness.

Now wouldn't it be good if someone somewhere could come up with a phone operating system that runs fast out of the box and works well?
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Old 25-06-2008, 18:22   #10
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

Forgot to mention the best program available on windows mobile, pocketputty! Login to your linux boxes from anywhere! As long as you get one with a decent keyboard that is....
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Old 25-06-2008, 19:25   #11
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

already been lurking round xda-developers

This is what I'm waiting to be released

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=169424

or the Sony Xperia

If I could place my own oredr I'd have

Symbian, JAVA or Linux based
QWERTY 5 row keyboard
VGA or WVGA res
Wifi, Bluetooth
A-GPS
Accelerometer
decent 4-5M camera with Xenon flash
lots of internal system RAM and expandable data storage

Oh, did I mention battery life of 1 week as well


so, Mr HTC, Sony, Nokia, when can I collect it?

3G iPhone would be good if it had a decent camera(i.e. over 2M and a flash at very least) and Bluetooth.
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Old 25-06-2008, 20:23   #12
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I always wanted a 2 in 1 device...ie a big screen (say 3.5") and full keyboard, but that you could just pull out a little phone if you were going out somewhere and didnt want the whole shooting match. Bit like Russian dolls, one inside the other somehow.
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Old 25-06-2008, 20:30   #13
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

why not just get a nokia internet tablet and Bluetooth it via your mobile in your pocket?
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Old 28-06-2008, 07:37   #14
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

just got my Voda contract sorted so now have a decent 3G data package so I thought I'd have a go setting up my old N80 as a bluetooth Modem


just set up rfcomm to attach it as /dev/rfcomm0

(for info heres the contents, I've masked my b/t addy)

/etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf

rfcomm0 **
# # Automatically bind the device at startup
bind yes;
#
# # Bluetooth address of the device
device xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx;
#
# # RFCOMM channel for the connection
channel 2;



add a wvdial.conf file

/etc/wvdial.conf

[Dialer Defaults]
Phone = *99#
Username = web
Password = web
Stupid Mode = 1
Dial Command = ATDT
Modem = /dev/rfcomm0
Baud = 460800
Init2 = ATZ
Init3 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ISDN = 0
Modem Type = Analog Modem
Init4 = AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","internet"


start rfcomm and run wvdial

job done!

I'll probably build a small gui to run it when I can be bothered
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Old 02-07-2008, 20:05   #15
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Re: Geek Alert or Symbian Series phones ( Nokia N Series, Sony Ericsson, etc)

heh, I've bought an e90 communicator to see me on till teh Touch Pro is out and then I'll decide which I prefer. Only been playing for teh one night but so far I'm impressed!!!

for those who don't know what it is...
http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4353371
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