mobile problem, help!! - Page 2

***Mr D*** · 12-11-2008, 13:14

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Originally Posted by Yolanda25

tried that one, didnt work, if anything it made it worse

i thought u have to own a property to get insurance, im gonna look into getting one( its never too late)

You have to own the Property to insure it, but not own a property.

You can have contents cover.

Sadly most do not cover mobile phones.

Could try sell it for spares to get a bit of cash back in.

K.S.H · 12-11-2008, 15:13

As mentioned earlier, put it in a bag of rice for a few days to draw the moisture out, they have pieces of litmus paper inside then now that turns red when it gets wet/damp. It's recommended not to repair a wet/damp phone but some places will attempt it

entwisi · 12-11-2008, 22:47

Salt is better than rice for drying things out.

I always put pans of salt in our caravan over winter to make sure that any moisture is attracted to it rather than the furniture etc. Its always wet through by Spring.

K.S.H · 12-11-2008, 23:33

but salt will get through the small holes in the phone but rice won't
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entwisi · 13-11-2008, 01:43

depends on what sort of salt

Less · 13-11-2008, 02:57

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Originally Posted by entwisi

Salt is better than rice for drying things out.

Salt is corrosive for electrical & electronic components, especially when damp!

Studio25 · 13-11-2008, 10:16

As well as corrosion, if the salt gets into the phone and hits the moisture, there's more danger of a short circuit.

If the phone's useless, I'd be tempted to buy some distilled water and dunk it in that and skoosh it around (technical term) while wearing marigolds or similar to avoid contaminating the distilled water. Don't have the battery or SIM in while you're doing it. Dry the surface & put it in a food bag in the airing cupboard with some silica or rice.

Considering all the effort, though, you might be better off just putting the SIM in an unlocked eBay replacement? Is it a really expensive 'phone?

Less · 13-11-2008, 10:46

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Originally Posted by Studio25

As well as corrosion, if the salt gets into the phone and hits the moisture, there's more danger of a short circuit.

If the phone's useless, I'd be tempted to buy some distilled water and dunk it in that and skoosh it around (technical term) while wearing marigolds or similar to avoid contaminating the distilled water. Don't have the battery or SIM in while you're doing it. Dry the surface & put it in a food bag in the airing cupboard with some silica or rice.

Considering all the effort, though, you might be better off just putting the SIM in an unlocked eBay replacement? Is it a really expensive 'phone?

It is because of the conductivity of the salt that corrosion occurs, even without connecting the power the salt can cause electrical currents to be generated between two different metals, e.g. printed circuit board and the legs of a component. This causes the corrosion, (very quickly).

Distilled water is useless for cleaning the boards, if you do have a spillage or as in this case drop it down the bog it should be cleaned using Isolpropyl alcohol cleaner which is for cleaning circuit boards, this will in most cases drive the water and indeed any salts from the circuit board and dries a great deal quicker than just placing on a radiator over night, (though no electrical supply should be connected until it has all completely evaporated ).

Putting the circuit board in a food bag could kill it quicker than dowsing in salt, these boards are electrostatically sensitive and the static created would often mean certain death to components.

The air needs to circulate around the board to assist evaporation, otherwise condensation can gather. If after drying it is not going straight back into the 'phone then a proper bag similar to the ones Hard drives come in can be used for storage.

However I do agree with this statement:-

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Considering all the effort, though, you might be better off just putting the SIM in an unlocked eBay replacement? Is it a really expensive 'phone?

Well entwisi, have I passed the test? Can I be added to your geeks list now?

entwisi · 13-11-2008, 12:54

You're my electrical engineer geek mate!

Yolanda25 · 13-11-2008, 13:54

well thanks for your help, i went to phones uk today and my mate who works there said she can fix it for 20-25 pounds so thats not too bad, lets hope it works.

Less · 13-11-2008, 16:22

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Originally Posted by entwisi

You're my electrical engineer geek mate!

Electronic!!!

I repair, down to component level, they fit the cables, that I attach everything to!

(of course PLC's have made a dramatic change, now none of them can work with 1960's gear it does their heads in).

Less · 13-11-2008, 16:25

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Originally Posted by Yolanda25

well thanks for your help, i went to phones uk today and my mate who works there said she can fix it for 20-25 pounds so thats not too bad, lets hope it works.

A quick swap of the main board, computer produced it probably only costs a fiver, don't you just love this throw away society?

Yolanda25 · 14-11-2008, 22:40

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Originally Posted by Less

A quick swap of the main board, computer produced it probably only costs a fiver, don't you just love this throw away society?

well if you can fix it for me for a fiver then please do

Neil · 15-11-2008, 09:05

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Originally Posted by Less

Electronic!!!

I repair, down to component level, they fit the cables, that I attach everything to!

(of course PLC's have made a dramatic change, now none of them can work with 1960's gear it does their heads in).

I will remember that the next time I need something electronic repairing