Ubuntu 10 (Linux for the non techies )

entwisi · 01-05-2010, 23:37

is now out, download at Ubuntu Home Page | Ubuntu

updates include Gwibber to collate your twitter/facebook/flickr/etc posts, PiTiVi video editing, plus lots more

Studio25 · 11-08-2010, 01:19

Trying to get it to talk to my mobile phone - failing miserably.

On the plus side, it's installed and got a wireless connection without any problems at all - more than Jaunty managed on my Dell laptop...

andrewb · 11-08-2010, 06:55

Going to try it later on.. thanks for the reminder!

entwisi · 11-08-2010, 09:13

Weird, what phone?, I've used it on my lappy with both Symbian S60 ( i.e. most Nokias ) , WinMO and Maemo and just selecting PC suite it auto pops up a wizard asking which network, payment plan etc and then connects just fine.

If you can a few seconds after plugging in teh phone run "dmesg" in a terminal and post teh last 30 or so lines.

Restless · 11-08-2010, 11:06

I may try it out on my laptop. what about drivers and stuff. I have dell inspiron 1520

Studio25 · 11-08-2010, 12:06

@ Entwisi: Thanks for the offer of help. Going to do a completely fresh install as I've been tinkering trying to add all sorts of stuff to get it to work... Watch this space...

@ Restless: I'm using "wubi" - it just works. It's a wrapper for Ubuntu linux. You install it as a windows application and tell it how much disk space to use. When you boot up, you have an option to carry on into Windows or use ubuntu for that session instead.

I'm giving it another shot because I'm having such a bad time with Windows 7. None of my programs work any more, so I'm faced with paying to upgrade them just so they will work, or moving over to free, open source alternatives.

entwisi · 11-08-2010, 12:11

I have a dell inspiron 1720 and all hardware works fine, wifi, bluetooth, 3G, nividia drivers etc

I actually now find it harder to find some device drivers in Windows than Linux ( e.g. get a Dell Axim PocketPC to work in Vista/7. simply wont work at all and Microsift say they will never supply a driver)

Restless · 11-08-2010, 12:18

cool. Im installing now. I like how it performs the dualboot itself... Since i found the guides for dualbooting 7 and xp a nightmare to even bother attempting

@studio25 I have a modified version of windows 7 on my tower. I haven't had many problems with it, It actually works like a dream, But my laptop is simply not good enough for vista/7 it slows down that bad can barely stand it. So linux is looking like an option, and i like trying something new(and of course its free

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Studio25 · 11-08-2010, 12:34

There you go - back in now, using a fresh install of Ubuntu 25min after my last post. And that includes an 245 MB update session in update manager. Now on 2.6.32-24 (Wubi installs 2.6.32-21)

Will edit this post with the info you requested, Entwisi...

Studio25 · 11-08-2010, 12:48

There you go - back in now, using a fresh install of Ubuntu 25min after my last post. And that includes an 245 MB update session in update manager. Now on 2.6.32-24 (Wubi installs 2.6.32-21)

Will edit this post with the info you requested, Entwisi...

OK - here it is: When I attach the 'phone, I get a popup message top right saying "Auto ETH1 - Connection established"
Apart from the tiniest of spikes in network activity on System Monitor, nowt else.

The output from DMESG is
** 21.468080** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 2(2) BSS returned, data->length = 243
** 22.077013** ERROR!!! RTMPCancelTimer failed, Timer hasn't been initialize!
** 26.248021** wlan0: no IPv6 routers present
** 37.342501** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 2(2) BSS returned, data->length = 243
** 37.342658** ==>rt_ioctl_siwfreq::SIOCSIWFREQ{cmd=0x8b04** (Channel=9)
** 71.985083** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 3(3) BSS returned, data->length = 424
** 111.984091** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 2(2) BSS returned, data->length = 243
** 171.985619** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 2(2) BSS returned, data->length = 243
** 251.985071** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 2(2) BSS returned, data->length = 243
** 296.382167** ERROR!!! RTMPCancelTimer failed, Timer hasn't been initialize!
** 301.492070** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 2(2) BSS returned, data->length = 243
** 301.492306** ==>rt_ioctl_siwfreq::SIOCSIWFREQ{cmd=0x8b04** (Channel=9)
** 347.120129** usb 7-2: USB disconnect, address 2
** 347.120451** ipaq ttyUSB0: PocketPC PDA converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
** 347.120477** ipaq 7-2:1.1: device disconnected
** 351.984054** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 3(3) BSS returned, data->length = 424
** 416.872084** usb 7-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
** 417.043448** usb 7-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
** 417.046411** ipaq 7-2:1.0: PocketPC PDA converter detected
** 417.046423** ipaq: probe of 7-2:1.0 failed with error -5
** 417.181368** rndis_host 7-2:1.0: RNDIS_MSG_QUERY(0x00010202) failed, -47
** 417.188656** eth1: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:1d.1-2, RNDIS device, 80:00:60:0f:e8:00
** 427.340033** eth1: no IPv6 routers present
** 471.984073** ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 2(2) BSS returned, data->length = 243

(Square brackets changed to curly brackets, just in case it causes a problem)

Incidentally, the phone was connected all the time during install. I unplugged it for a few seconds and plugged it back in, which is probably why there's a USB disconnect in there...

Restless · 11-08-2010, 12:55

man how fast does that install!!

Restless · 11-08-2010, 13:09

Question: if i like ubuntu and decide to install it on my 64bit machine, would you reccomend it over windows 7 64bit? on the ubuntu page it says Not recommended for daily desktop usage

Studio25 · 11-08-2010, 14:19

OK - now I get
[ 1154.440057] usb 7-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[ 1154.615236] usb 7-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 1154.619196] ipaq 7-2:1.0: PocketPC PDA converter detected
[ 1154.621319] usb 7-2: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[ 1170.192070] ===>rt_ioctl_giwscan. 3(3) BSS returned, data->length = 424
after turning off "Enable advanced network functionality" in "Settings/Connections/USB
to PC"

Nothing happening automatically, though...

entwisi · 11-08-2010, 17:43

which phone are you using?

is the internet connection sharing enabled on the phone?

Studio25 · 12-08-2010, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by entwisi

which phone are you using?

is the internet connection sharing enabled on the phone?

It's an O2 XDA Orbit - which is really just a rebadged HTC Artemis. Unlocked and on virgin.

ICS wasn't enabled, but it is now. I've finally managed to sync, but I don't know how, because I've messed about with too many settings for me to know which was the combination that worked.

Now I have to work out the procedure which I need to follow to get a new synch done - from clean boot to connecting the mobile to being synchronised. As far as I can tell, it's:
{Alt-F2** synce-sync-engine
{Alt-F2** synce-kpm
Connect mobile and wait a bit.
{Alt-F2** multisync0.90
Wait a bit, then run ActiveSync on mobile.

I'll reboot and try it again, then confirm.