Vista again

shillelagh · 23-02-2008, 16:47

BBC NEWS | Technology | Microsoft warns on Vista update

Ok so why issue a service pack when it turns off security on the computer?

Just saw this on the bbc website and thought of all those who have vista on here if they knew about it.

entwisi · 23-02-2008, 17:34

saw that a couple of days ago on a techie site. thought I'd not post it as I'm always seeming to be Vista Bashing.

WillowTheWhisp · 23-02-2008, 18:36

Bill Gates doesn't want us to use any programs that are not made by Microsoft.

I am not a happy Willow.

jaysay · 04-03-2008, 11:47

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Originally Posted by shillelagh

BBC NEWS | Technology | Microsoft warns on Vista update

Ok so why issue a service pack when it turns off security on the computer?

Just saw this on the bbc website and thought of all those who have vista on here if they knew about it.

Thanks for that shillelagh although the list they have printed won't effect my laptop

Neil · 04-03-2008, 11:52

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Bill Gates doesn't want us to use any programs that are not made by Microsoft.

I am not a happy Willow.

Its only like saying a car manufacturer will void a new car warranty if non genuine parts are fitted.

How can it be Microsoft's fault if third party software makes Windows fall over?

entwisi · 05-03-2008, 07:13

Not quite a correct analogy, its like saying you can only fit a Ford Alarm to protect it.

Software should present a documented and stable API. That is what is deemed correct practice. Microsoft do neither. A good friend wrote some very low level backup software for enterprises that could take any computer back to a split second in time. to do so he had to effectivley intercept writes to disk, Microsoft changed teh API with a service pack, published it on MSDN but forgot to ensure what they released matched the published software. All his software stopped working and when he tried to patch it using teh published API it wouldn't work. It took him weeks of midnight oil to re-engineer the code and when he published teh 'correct' API for other developers Microsoft threatened to sue him for doing what they should have done.

Vista is rubbish, even Microst execs refused to upgrade to it for the first 6 montsh due to lack of drivers. Says something when your senior execs don't even trust it

Neil · 05-03-2008, 09:31

Ok my analogy was a bit iffy but I think you know what I mean.
It is a difficult because software is not written to any sort of standard so you can't guarantee on bit will work with another.

I don't particularly like Microsoft but it might not be their fault. I assume they found a security weakness in the operating source and corrected it. The programs that no longer work may have been relying on that weakness to function. Microsoft correct the issue and 3rd party software stopped working.

One of Microsofts biggest faults is making sure 3rd party software still works in it's new operating system releases. I think this as prevented them from redesigning Windows from the ground up.

Retlaw · 04-04-2008, 22:18

Keep on bashing windows, don't stop. I only wish I'd gone linux years ago, now to old to learn a new system.
Gates has always made sure any thing that works on windoze, he has to have the last word, going back before win95, two programs gates tried to buy out, WordStar6 and Dbase4, they wouldn't sell, so he made sure they don't work on his machines, I can do work in WordStar that can't be done in any of gates's wordprocessors. There are still a lot of us round the world that still use WordStar, some have even found ways to make it run on Xp, I can't, its says error code 86000 and not enough room in enviroment, or somat like that

Keep Bashin him Entwistle.
Retlaw

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Originally Posted by entwisi

saw that a couple of days ago on a techie site. thought I'd not post it as I'm always seeming to be Vista Bashing.