Euro 2012 - Page 15

Barrie Yates · 25-06-2012, 14:43

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Originally Posted by cashman

Hodgson did very well in a short space of time IMHO, But to take us one step further, fer me he needs to learn em the basics of football, They aint on the same wavelength as the better sides, during his short spell at the helm, i have seen possibilities to do so, If not we will remain as also rans.

Given the short time he has been in charge I think he did OK - but for one point. Most of the players play in teams that pass short and quick with the occasional long diagonal pass - why was Hart and some of the defence booting it long. Even if an England player got to it first there was no support for him.
There was a great need for a midfield architect - another Scholes or similar, Gerrard & Parker had to be too defensive to be able to control the game so for long periods we were without the ball.
Whatever happened to the ruling that there could only be so many foreign players in a team?

jaysay · 25-06-2012, 17:27

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Originally Posted by cashman

Knickers Eric, All they need to do is "Learn how to Keep the ball" when in possesion, instead of giving it away, That shouldn't be too difficult? These players are reckoned to be International standard.

And lets not forget cashy they do get paid rather handsomely for their efforts

jaysay · 25-06-2012, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

Given the short time he has been in charge I think he did OK - but for one point. Most of the players play in teams that pass short and quick with the occasional long diagonal pass - why was Hart and some of the defence booting it long. Even if an England player got to it first there was no support for him.
There was a great need for a midfield architect - another Scholes or similar, Gerrard & Parker had to be too defensive to be able to control the game so for long periods we were without the ball.
Whatever happened to the ruling that there could only be so many foreign players in a team?

Think I can agree about the long ball Barrie, but if he was going to play that way he should have started with Carroll from the start, at least he can hold the ball up and we looked more dangerous when he came on, the things is we had no answer to Pirlo, we needed somebody snapping at his heels every time he got the ball not giving him a free roll to stroll though the middle of the park time after time

kestrelx · 26-06-2012, 18:05

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

You do realise just how much stick you're going to get now don't you Kes ? Just top it by saying you're Dad's French & bingo !

Speaking of which I do hear tell that the Spanish are attempting a new type of Paella tonight with the addition of diced Frog ....... Ole !

So you still got a grudge against the Germans Dave? What are you doing living there then?

No my dads a Lancs man - well I told you the Italians would go up a gear! A gear England obviously can't reach!

I wonder why?

kestrelx · 26-06-2012, 18:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Think I can agree about the long ball Barrie, but if he was going to play that way he should have started with Carroll from the start, at least he can hold the ball up and we looked more dangerous when he came on, the things is we had no answer to Pirlo, we needed somebody snapping at his heels every time he got the ball not giving him a free roll to stroll though the middle of the park time after time

My sentiments exactly about Carroll - I wonder if Rooney is a jink?

jaysay · 26-06-2012, 18:12

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

My sentiments exactly about Carroll - I wonder if Rooney is a jink?

Na Carroll and Rooney in a 4-4-2 formation, would have worked for me, young Welbeck just couldn't hold the ball up, although he has some nice touches he looked a bit out of his depth on Sunday

DaveinGermany · 26-06-2012, 19:36

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

So you still got a grudge against the Germans Dave? What are you doing living there then?

Nope, not at all fella I married one. And the reason I'm still over here along with plenty of other ex-servicemen is because I & they decided it was a better option than what was on offer at the time in UK, the way of life, job opportunities, travel.

I mean I can get in the car & drive to any of the following, Holland, Belgium, France (not that I'd want to mind) Luxembourg, Switzerland, Austria, Czech Republic, Poland or Denmark, all within anything from 45 minutes to several hours (pretty much like the Krauties of old really but without the Armour).

Don't get me wrong England is my home & it's always nice to come back to visit, but I've settled here now (at the time of writing, 28 years in Country) but being an "Englander in the Fatherland" is quite good. One day I'll up sticks & head back to Blighty .............. maybe.

jaysay · 27-06-2012, 18:44

Think I fancy the spanish to go through but its going to be a tough match, I'm of to watch it now

DaveinGermany · 27-06-2012, 20:38

Another late night !

Eric · 27-06-2012, 20:43

This is a good game ... I'm actually glad it's going into extra time ... but that bloody ref! Anyone else lose count of the bs yellow cards? And too many wimps and pussies on the field. Time for another Bomber

cashman · 27-06-2012, 22:44

Spain never really played until extra time, overall deserved to go through.

jaysay · 28-06-2012, 09:05

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Originally Posted by cashman

Spain never really played until extra time, overall deserved to go through.

A very tedious match cashy, only came to life in extra time, and again the ref was pants, Spain just shaded it, but could have gone out in the lottery which is penalties, why the hell did Portugal get licked 4-2 on pens and twinkle toes didn't even take a kick utter stupidity, the guy that miss the last pen never looked like scoring he even got the order mixed up, should have sent Ronaldo up before him

cashman · 28-06-2012, 13:39

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Originally Posted by jaysay

A very tedious match cashy, only came to life in extra time, and again the ref was pants, Spain just shaded it, but could have gone out in the lottery which is penalties, why the hell did Portugal get licked 4-2 on pens and twinkle toes didn't even take a kick utter stupidity, the guy that miss the last pen never looked like scoring he even got the order mixed up, should have sent Ronaldo up before him

Dickheado was the captain, so would presume was his choice?

mobertol · 28-06-2012, 14:53

I really enjoyed the England - Italy match -apart from the gloating i had to put up with from my son and husband when we lost! I thought England were unlucky not to have scored during normal time especially at the beginning ...I do think they need to brush up on their penalty kicking though.

Last nights match was one of the worst i've seen so far -was expecting much more from Spain.

Italy - Germany tonight -should be a thriller. They're all excited over here about it.
Don't think of Italy as my second team - personally i fancy Germany to win it with a few goals scored by either side. Maybe 3-2. Can't say that here though!!

cashman · 28-06-2012, 15:24

Well i just backed Italy to do the Krauts.