Goal or What

[Bazf]

It's a funny world isn't it? Imagine for a minute that Paul Robinson, having dropped a ball over his goal-line at Old Trafford, claws the ball back out and appeals for a goal are waved away by the referee. Imagine the reaction from the likes of Ferguson and Roy Keane. Anger? You bet. Disbelief? Sure. There'd be a national enquiry into the incident and in due course United, I'm sure, would be awarded all three points and the linesman who got it wrong would make a public apology.
But we all know what really happened. It was Roy Carroll, you know, the United keeper. And do you think Ferguson could lower himself to speak about the incident? No. In classic Ferguson style, he claims United were unjustly denied a penalty.
One thing I have not seen commented on yet after last night's Tottenham goal - for that is what it was - is that Carroll must have been aware that the ball had crossed the line, even if the officials were not.
Everyone is rightly offended when a forward 'simulates' a foul in the penalty area and fraudulently earns a penalty from which a side scores - there have even been calls for penalising teams and players after games when this happens - so why is it OK for a goalkeeper to pretend to save a goal when he knows he hasn't?

[slater_scott]

it only happens to man ure.

remember when the ref ignored sahas blatant handball at ewood park and smith scored from it.

Fergie also forced the 4th official to add an extra minute on to the 3 mins that the ref wanted

[entwisi]

Man U v Spurs decision explained

An FA spokesman after the game absolved the linesman of any responsibility
for the apparently mistaken decision not to award a goal to Spurs after a
shot from the halfway line crossed the goal line by at least a metre.
"The shot came in from an unusual distance and as such caught the linesman
out of position forcing him race back towards the goal as the play
developed", explained the spokesman, "As he ran, the United scarf he was
wearing under his shirt came loose and fluttered up into his face obscuring
his view and preventing him from making the call. It was just one of those
things."

In response to further questions from the Press the spokesman explained "If
they don't already have a United tattoo most officials on game day try to
wear a scarf or a replica shirt under their regulation kit to show their
support for the worlds greatest club. The linesman in this case had chosen
to wear a United scarf, a common choice that is in keeping with FA
guidelines. The root cause of the problem lies not with the linesman but
with the players and management of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club who
broke one the most important unwritten rules of the English FA: They placed
a shot on target at Old Trafford. Martin Jol is new to this country and
perhaps he s not yet familiar with some of our finer traditions. If he
doesn't yet understand that for the greater good of the game visiting
teams, by tradition, are not expected to try to score at Old Trafford then
our officials are in a position to help Mr Jol make that cultural
adjustment."

Chuckling to himself the FA spokesman added "The goal had to be disallowed
to avoid us descending down a slippery slope that would be bad for the
national game. It's a fine line the officials have to walk. If they award a
goal this week, next week someone might expect to get a penalty or demand
that Van Nistelrooy be booked for diving. Can you imagine? That would just
never do. No no no. Shocking, just the thought of it."

[Bazf]

Brilliant I couldnt have put it better Entwistle.

Fans all over Britain are calling for video technology to be used during football matches after Manchester United’s controversial draw with Tottenham at Old Trafford.
A spectator said “It can only be a good thing. After sitting through that 0-0 sh*te, I wish I could have switched over to a video instead.”

[yerself]

Definitely a save

[Fearon1]

that is an absolute disgraceful desicion. I couldnt help laughin at Roy Carrol straight after his mistake, he kept glancing at the linesman, he was ****tin it

[Bazf]

Found this on Football365.........

The record books will say Roy Carroll kept a clean sheet at Old Trafford - but the Ulsterman will never be allowed to forget the howler that should have given Tottenham victory. And he's certainly not the first...
The keeper is in good company because even the very best in United's recent history have made major errors.
January 4, 2005 - Roy Carroll v Tottenham (Premiership)
After rushing from his area to make a clearance, Carroll was forced to scamper back as Spurs' Pedro Mendes launched a 55-yard effort at the United goal. Carroll got back but then failed to hold onto the ball, dropping it at least a yard over his own line. The quick-thinking Ulsterman scooped the ball out and neither referee Mark Clattenburg nor assistant Robert Lewis was able to confirm the goal and play was waved on.
November 23, 2004 - Roy Carroll v Lyon (Champions League)
United were leading 1-0 when Mahamadou Diarra picked up Juninho's short pass 35 yards out. The Mali international tried his luck anyway but, though his shot was powerful, Carroll appeared to have it covered. Inexplicably, the keeper let the ball slip through his grasp and bounce into the net.

September 15, 2004 - Tim Howard v Lyon (Champions League)
On the back foot as Lyon take the early initiative, United were still level when Brazilian midfielder Juninho lined up a long-range free-kick. Howard watched it fly through a crowd of bodies but couldn't cling onto the ball, dropping it at the feet of Cris, who swiftly put the hosts in front.

March 9, 2004 - Tim Howard v Porto (Champions League)
In fairness, not the worst mistake ever but the consequences of it were fairly severe. Leading on away goals in the final minute of the second leg, United had to defend a free-kick 20 yards out. Benni McCarthy fired it towards the top corner and while Howard did well to keep it out, he could only claw it straight back into the six-yard box, where Costinha tapped eventual champions Porto into the last eight.

November 25, 2001 - Fabien Barthez v Arsenal (Premier League)
A typically hard-fought Highbury encounter looked to be heading for a draw when Barthez's dismal attempted clearance landed straight at the feet of Thierry Henry, who
duly dispatched the ball past his international team-mate. Within two minutes, Barthez had blundered again, losing possession in a tackle with Henry and seeing the Arsenal tap the ball into an empty net.

October 17, 2001 - Fabien Barthez v Deportivo La Coruna (Champions League)
Barthez and Wes Brown had already got themselves into a tangle to gift Deportivo one goal as United fought out an Old Trafford thriller with their Spanish rivals. The hosts seemed likely to gain a draw though until Barthez slid out of his box to make a tackle, missed the ball completely and allowed Diego Tristan to slot home the easiest of winners.

September 25, 1999 - Massimo Taibi v Southampton (Premier League)
Taibi's stay at Old Trafford was not a happy one and the blunder that gifted Matt le Tissier Southampton's second will be the moment his brief stay is remembered for. Le Tissier had virtually turned away in disgust at a weak 25-yard effort. Yet somehow Taibi let the ball slither under his body and into the net. Amazingly, the Italian retained his place for the following week's trip to Chelsea. United lost 5-0.

February 15, 1998 - Peter Schmeichel v Barnsley (FA Cup)
Just to prove even the best make mistakes, Schmeichel's entry into the hall of shame came against unfancied Barnsley in an FA Cup fifth round tie. The incident appeared innocuous enough as Gary Pallister rolled a back-pass towards the great Dane. But Schmeichel sliced his clearance badly, straight to John Hendrie, who promptly put the visitors in front.

May 12, 1990 - Jim Leighton v Crystal Palace (FA Cup Final)
Sir Alex Ferguson had stood by his fellow Scot despite a succession of mistakes after his move from Aberdeen. But when Leighton was caught badly out of position in the move that led to Ian Wright putting the Eagles 3-2 up in extra time, the United boss decided enough was enough, and axed him from the replay.

[Bagpuss]

I love this thread, very funny chaps keep it up except for the Manc idiot "Yerself" who once again was wearing those Man Utd specs that only see what he wants to see.

[Steven]

The F.a are thinking about bringing in a systme to prevent this happenign again they are going to fit the ball with a small chip and place two sensors on each post therfore when the ball crosses the line it is read by the sensors and this tells the officals

This is a long step to improve the referereing of our great sport and hopefully this will lead to better things in the game with the added help of technology to aid the refs who have a very difficult job!!!

I do not want video refs as i think this would interupt the game but ideas like this surley have to be welcomed at all levels

[Fearon1]

this idea has been around for a number of years, they just havnt used it yet (well not in england they havnt)

[Bazf]

Your intrepid reporter at FA HQ.
Just heard stright from the FA that instead of putting a chip in the ball they are going to program a chip and put one in each of the officials except the 4th official as he does Fu*8 all anyway, the chip is being sponsored by Fly Emirates they being the ones who sponsor the Refs this year and coincidently Chelski as well, (er just wondering why these decsions always help the southern sellout club). Alex "the red faced one" Ferguson said he agreed it was time for technology to be used as he noticed that only 7 mins of the 4 alloted extra time mins had been used and "we should have had a penalty which technology would have given us" as for the goal crossing the line he said "I didnt see it and nor did any of the other 65 people on the bench, not even technology would have given that as a goal, we should have had a penalty".It was later explained to him that Technology was not the nickname of Mike Riley his favorite ref.
Manchester United today issued a statement about refs being programed with chips.
We at Manchester United agree that we need to move up with technology and although a ref with a chip would be an improvement we need to be assured that it would help Manchester United ( We sent chips to Joe Corrigan when he was at City and that worked). We have hired a programmer who will look at the chips and ensure they are up to Manchester United standards, he is completly unbiased as he is from London and although a fan of the club he does'nt actualy know where Manchester is. We have also decided that if we dont agree with the FA about these chips we will pull out of the FA Cup, again.
United manager Alex "call me dell" Ferguson said he has been given a new digital watch as Mickey Mouse is still wearing an Alex Ferguson watch.
Watch this space for more news!!!!!!!!

[yerself]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

I love this thread, very funny chaps keep it up except for the Manc idiot "Yerself" who once again was wearing those Man Utd specs that only see what he wants to see.

It was a save. Did he or did he not save two points for United ? Thanks for the compliments Bagpuss, it's always easy to wind a Liverpool fan up.

[Fearon1]

it will be even easier to wind up a liverpool fan when Burnley beat them tommorow

[Bazf]

Burnley call Centre

Burnley Have set up a Call Centre for fans who are troubled by their current form.

The number is 0800 10 10 10.

Calls charged at peak rate for overseas users.

Once again the number is...

0800 won nothing won nothing won nothing

[Fearon1]

Burnley Have set up a Call Centre for fans who are troubled by their current form

Current form, Burnley are top of the Championship on current form,

last 8 games - - - - won 6, lost 2, 18 points

Crewe are in second on 17 points. So i have got to say that i am sooooo woried about Burnleys current form, im so worried i hope it carries on