Metal Detecting (Including Finds).

[dotti34]

AccyX. Still assuming I am following the right family I have found out a bit more courtesy of Lancashire BMD. As well as Catherine Muriel and Frank there was another daughter Sarah, born 1905. I still can’t find any children from Catherine or Frank but Sarah married John Thomas Ingham in 1936. Their daughter, Dorothy Muriel Ingham was born in Great Harwood in 1943.

Dorothy Muriel married David Hepworth in 1965 and their two sons are Alistair Mark Hepworth born in 1969 and Nicholas David born in 1972. Both boys were born in Clitheroe.

If I have followed the ‘clues’ correctly then by my reckoning these two would be the great-grandsons of your Joseph.

[dotti34]

Have just found an address in Grindleton for Dorothy and David Hepworth, as above. If you can't find it I can p/m you.

[dotti34]

If you do contact Mrs. Hepworth, AccyX, it will be very interesting to know if she is, in fact, Joseph's granddaughter. On the other hand I could be all up-a-wattle. Hope I'm not.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Wow, Dotti.....well done. I hope you are not all 'up a Wattle'......I hope your sleuthing turns out to be spot on.....and the family are reunited with this bit of their family history.

[Accyexplorer]

Originally Posted by dotti34

Have just found an address in Grindleton for Dorothy and David Hepworth, as above. If you can't find it I can p/m you.

Thank you D,your sleuthing seems to tie in with what I've found so hopefully we're on the right track.
If you could PM me the address I would be most greatful,I will try to contact Dorothy and hopefully she'll be able to prove provenience and I can reunite her with her grandfathers war medal.

I appreciate the the odds of finding a medal and reuniting it with a family member (where it belongs) are slim to none but it would mean so much to me,it has been hard work joining forums,contacting folk and scouring online records....

...but the net is closing

[dotti34]

Hi AccyX, have just p/m'd you as requested. Please let me know if you have any problem getting this. I hope you are successful in placing the medal with a family member.

Thanks, Margaret, for your comments. This sort of sleuthing is good fun - though frustrating at times. Hope I've put AccyX on the right track.

[Turtle]

Great detective work, dotti! And kudos to you AccyEx for trying to bring this medal to family members.

[Accyexplorer]

I decided to take the detecting stick to a local park,I didn't really find that much that was note worthy but the weather was lovely,the youth were quite(ish) and the birds were singing.

Anyhow,The finds of note are:-

2 pre decimal pennies
1 threepence
1 old 10p coin
1 two shillings coin
1 old 50p coin
1 cats eye
1 key
1 tag object which reads "shut"
1 Unknown metallic object and £4..60p in spendable coins

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[dotti34]

Thanks, Turtle. Hope I'm not left with egg on my face if I've pursued the wrong family. Oops!

[Accyexplorer]

I decided to take advantage of the fine weather this aft and I took the detecting stick for a stroll.
I went on a local field that I've had good results from in the past,I found a patch that rabbits or whatever had thinned in amongst the longer grass and thought I'd give it a go....

...I wasn't disappointed.

Anyhow,the finds of note are:-

7 pre decimal pennies
5 pre decimal half pennies
2 threepenny bits
1 silver 3d
1 silver jug charm
1 pendant that reads "I'm a Catholic in case of a accident call a priest".
1 silver earring
1 large Unknown pendant/medal
1 lovely Edward Vii silver two shillings/one florin coin

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[Accyexplorer]

After a cold(ish) start today the weather warmed up slightly making pleasant detecting conditions.

First of all,I decided to do a local pasture permission,but it turned up nothing but rubbish and a 20p coin.
Feeling hard done to,I decided to spend a hour on another permission on the way home.

After surveying the area and guessing as to where folk may have been walking (and hopefully dropping items) I got down to detecting.
It turned out to be a good guess as I found a few items of note.

The finds of note are:-

3 owd pennies
2 owd pennies
2 owd buttons
1 threepenny bit
1 (silver) 1865 sixpence
1 heart shaped item
1 (gold) ring
1 (gold) pendant and £1.75p in spendable change

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[Accyexplorer]

I've got a query regarding metal detecting.

Firstly,do you think carrying a metal detector could be classed by the police as going equipt to steal?

If it was 2am and you was lurking around lets say a Roman heritage site, I could understand.
But if I was carrying my detecting stick down the road,going about my lawful business,do you think this could be classed as suspicious behaviour by the police and give them reasonable grounds for say a "stop and search"?

Secondly,if I found something while participating in my past time but I don't take reasonable steps to find its owner is this "theft by finding" in the eyes of the law?

I wonder what the police would do if I went to the station with all my finds and said I've found these and then handed them a carrier bag half full of my detecting finds

[Margaret Pilkington]

Jason are you asking this question because you have been accosted by the police...or is it just academic?
There must be some guidelines which metal detector enthusiasts follow......have you sought out these.

https://finds.org.uk/getinvolved/guides/codeofpractice
Maybe this will help.
I haven't read it so I do not know if it answers your queries.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Laws on Detecting - DiggingUpThePast

Just a quick 'google'brought these up....I am sure there will be more if you want to search

[Accyexplorer]

Purely theoretical M,I'm aware and also adhere to the code of conduct for metal detecting.

It was just something I read on a forum about a chap who was stopped by the local bobbies for carrying his detector,and they allegedly said this act can be seen as going equipt to steal and proceeded to perform a "stop and search".

I'm no legal beagle,but is carrying a metal detector (with lawful excuse) reasonable grounds for one of these search things? Hmmm,I'm not too sure is it.

They also informed him that anything significant he finds should be reported at the station then the police can do their enquires into whether it's actually lost or not..


..Well since most of the items I have found have been in the ground for 50+years I doubt anyone will be in a rush to claim its theirs