My new toy!

[shillelagh]

Can i just say entwisi's new car is comfy to ride in.... He came and picked me up on Monday to go to pool ... oh and it warns you when theres a speed camera about. Wondered what was going on!!!!

Oh and a little aside ... yes he did win both doubles and his single match ... it was because he had a good doubles partner!!!! lol

[Ossywarrior]

Originally Posted by Bonnyboy

The 180bhp is no longer the case, had it chipped ( 20 to 30 bhp increase) The torque gain was fair at 60lb/ft taking it from 372lb/ft to around 430lb/ft. Had a high flow K&N filter installed and custom made stainless Powerflow exhausts put on ( combined they should gimme a few extra horses)

It’s already been dropped 45mm and sports RS4 alloys ( new boots were added with the above kit) heck, it was me birthday Shame I cant afford an RS4...one day maybe. Watch out for me little tractor at the lights, tis quite mean now



Come on man, minus 4 temp is no excuse, get some pics posted mate

the one problem u have there is you would need a re-map to really get the best from the extra and from what i have heard there is only one company that will re-map audi's with tiptronic boxes

[BLACKBURN RAVER]

1 question if i may !!

what is the point in spending copious amounts of cash on a car that has all this power and speed which cannot be used (legally) on uk roads ??

maybe its true what they say,




.....jokin btw.....but a serious question

[entwisi]

who says you can't use most of this? there are no 'acceleration limits', only speed limits, there are times when all that power makes driving safer. I had an overtake yesterday where in a 'normal' car I would have been exposed to risk for twice as long as I was due to the fact I could quickly accelerate and then return to my side of the road.

Also at 70mph my car is at not much over tickover making it a very serene and relaxed place to be, a 1 litre saxo at 70 is ringing its neck and noisy and not relaxed or serene in any way shape or form.

Additionally there are places to use all this power, they are called tracks and a lot of people with fast cars do track days as a way of using their cars to teh 'full'

Plus, who says I've spent copious amounts of cash?

[BLACKBURN RAVER]

Originally Posted by entwisi

who says you can't use most of this? there are no 'acceleration limits', only speed limits, there are times when all that power makes driving safer. I had an overtake yesterday where in a 'normal' car I would have been exposed to risk for twice as long as I was due to the fact I could quickly accelerate and then return to my side of the road.

Also at 70mph my car is at not much over tickover making it a very serene and relaxed place to be, a 1 litre saxo at 70 is ringing its neck and noisy and not relaxed or serene in any way shape or form.

Additionally there are places to use all this power, they are called tracks and a lot of people with fast cars do track days as a way of using their cars to teh 'full'

Plus, who says I've spent copious amounts of cash?

so i presume when it accelerates quickly it slows down just as quick...or does that child in the road you didnt see end up twisted n dead in the gutter ?...but then again your a safe driver so that wouldnt matter !!! and in a normal car if there are risks you wouldnt try the overtake in the first place, but because you have a powerful car you take that risk and overtake anyway, causing more danger !!!

and i know about track days,they are basically for souped (sp?) up road cars, the fact stands that the only time you can fully appreciate the power of the car is on a track, i cant understand how it is legal to soup (sp) up cars to such a high spec...

anyway rant over ...

[entwisi]

yes it does slow down very quickly as well, plus when driving 'quickly' I ( I can't speak for others) concentrate 110% on what I'm doing, not whats on the radio, who's texting me etc.

Observation is a funny thing, the more you 'do it' the better you get at it and bikers are VERY good as we are usually teh one who hurts if we get it wrong irrespective of who's fault it is. I've sat with teh lad I car share with and we did an experiment, he basically commeneted on everything that he could 'see' as we drove downa road for ac ouple of miles, then I did. He was gob smacked to the amount of stuff I was seeing that didn't even register in his mind. Even that sort of 6th sense stuff where I'd comment that a bird would fly off at an inappropriate time etc.

Risk is another of those funny things, and one that often gets bikers a bad name from people that have no idea what its like on a bike. You see, what to you is a high risk overtake in a fast car or bike is a simple and very low risk when you understand the capability of the machine. One of the things that our new shiny compensation culture society is breeding is people with very poor risk analysis skills. When I were a lad you went on rope swings etc and you reached a point where you decided teh rope was too high, too weak, not tied tightly etc. This was usually as a result of falling off a few times. Now kids don't have that awareness and it makes them less capable of assessing risks in other areas of life.

why shouldn't people 'soup' up cars? th epedal on teh right is an infinately variable control and even believe it or not has an 'off' position!!!

[TJH]

It is true that a Track day is required for a powerful car to fully open up. You cant do 155mph + on any road safely.

BUT any car is only as fast as the person driving it. Top end cars tend to have top end brakes, with the second hand car market its a bit hit and miss as cheaper parts are often used and this affects the way a car handles.

You can drive an BMW M3 as fast as a Saxo, 70mph is 70mph no matter what your sat in.

I think an extended licence should be required for any car over 300bhp, but only so the driver knows what dangers can occur with loss of traction and yes this applies to quattro Audi's.

Ive driven powerful cars all my life and never killed anyone, my brakes have saved my life and that of others far more than the ability to 'speed'.

I just think a Metro is just as dangerous as a Porsche, its down to the driver and this is where the goverment should enforce sensible laws.

No one should be able to jump out of a 'normal car' and then jump into a sports car. Where all great drivers and legends in our own heads but i think we would all agree, additional training to make the roads a safer place would be a good idea no matter what your age or past driving history is.

Unless ive missed understood the law, this is how a Bike licence works???

[entwisi]

Bike licenses work ona number of levels

If you pass on a 125 you can ride up to 33bhp machines for 2 years then you are free to ride whatever.

If you are over 21 you can take Direct Access which is taken on 500cc bike or above and you can ride anything straight away ( insurance costs depending!!!)


I'm all for a 'performance license' but its difficult to set a limit on whats performance car. 150bhp in a 7 type car is hugely quick, 180bhp in a large barge is not so. so do we do it on 0-60? or in real world times a 40-70? I'd also love to see regular retests(5 years or so) to ensure that people can't fall into bad habits. I'd also agree that more training would be a very good thing and would be happy to partake.

i'd argue something in your 70 is 70 comment,


emergency stopping from 70 in a saxo or in a 'fast' car will be a hugely different result so is 70 teh same irrespective of what you are in? from a safety perspective I'd say not. I'd also much rather be in my HUGE A8 than a saxo if I was going to hit something at 70.....

[TJH]

A performance car will as a general rule always stop before a 'normal' car, but somthing like your Audi is a massive moving mass to stop and as such do tend to have over sized brakes which makes them so easy to drive. My Audi can go from 70mph to 0mph so quickly you actually feel sick and i like brakes like that but they can allow you to drive much more quickly than is safe. Such as leaving a motorway etc.

70 mile is 70 mile when you hit someone, but i do agree if your hitting say another car or brick wall then the type of car does make a huge difference!!.

The make / model of car has no reflection on its ability to keep the driver safe in a crash.

The BMW Mini has an Ncap rating of 5 Star where as the Audi A6 only had a 3 star rating until 2004.

A Huge Ford Ranger 2008 has a low rating of 2 stars and thats a huge vehicle that people think there kids are safe in.

Executive cars are not always the safer option, brake pedals can rip your foot apart if they do not collapse and the same goes for the steering wheel this applies to any car which does not carry a high Ncap rating.

I sold my Mercedes C Coupe when i found it had a 3 star Ncap rating and thats a £35000 car!.

The new generation of Corsa, Focus, Fiesta are very good safe cars and put the past to shame with there features, price, Carbon Foot Print and Ncap ratings.

[panther]

Is this the fastest car in the world?
0 to 60 in 1.67 seconds at a top speed o0f 270!!
I know ya cant drive that fast, but it does look GOOD!!!!
Barabus TKR......

[shillelagh]

But it would be hopeless with speed bumps .....

[Speedy]

Originally Posted by BLACKBURN RAVER

i know about track days,they are basically for souped (sp?) up road cars, the fact stands that the only time you can fully appreciate the power of the car is on a track, i cant understand how it is legal to soup (sp) up cars to such a high spec...

TBH it depends if your talking about a car modified by a chavvy boy racer or a car modified by a proper enthusiast.

I have been in cars with both types, where a chavvy boy racer will rag the car to within an inch of its life and change gear about 2rpm before the redline and assume that quick in quick out is the best policy a car enthuisiast will understand where the torque curve of his car is and be much more aware of all the things his car is doing ie: understanding the road condition, understanding where the limits of grip are.

And as for modifications, i genuinley believe the first mods on any car with performance in mind should be to uprate the tyres, brakes and suspension, as the old saying goes POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL.

Oh by the way if any VW or Audi owners want a local enthuisasts forum to join let me know and ill be happy to PM you the details.

[Ossywarrior]

intrested point speedy,

now i always used to drive my cars by feeding the power in, same as when i had the bike so that it keeps the balance of the car perfect but in the impreza the boost control is controlled by throttle position so it has to be flat open to maximise boost.

mine does 0-60 in 4.2 secs and stops very fast with brembo's and peformance friction carbo metallic pads on.

[Speedy]

Originally Posted by Ossywarrior

mine does 0-60 in 4.2 secs

Thats genuinley impressive.

A good friend of mine owned (very briefly i must admit) an Evo 5 which to this day is the fastest car i have been in, the acceleration in that thing was nothing short of breathtaking....i can still remember the sights sounds and feelings of that car.....truly amazing (if a little bit tempremental and not the most refined car in the world) but performance wise it rocked (until he swaped it for a VW Lupo).

[Ossywarrior]

Originally Posted by Speedy

Thats genuinley impressive.

A good friend of mine owned (very briefly i must admit) an Evo 5 which to this day is the fastest car i have been in, the acceleration in that thing was nothing short of breathtaking....i can still remember the sights sounds and feelings of that car.....truly amazing (if a little bit tempremental and not the most refined car in the world) but performance wise it rocked (until he swaped it for a VW Lupo).

when i lock the center diff on the dccd, get it too about 4/5000 revs and let it go, it feels like my eyes are being ripped out it is very good

evo's are a very harsh ride even more harsh than my sti