Greatest Rock n Roll Band? - Page 2

Wynonie Harris · 05-12-2008, 16:34

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Originally Posted by waterwall

heavy metal? haha eh?

listen to LZ 3, its so soft its barely even rock n roll.

So they either do heavy rock or soft rock...as you say yourself it's "barely even rock 'n' roll".

As for "Louie Louie", be educated...

...the original is still the greatest.

Just because a heavy metal band covers a rock 'n' roll song, it doesn't make 'em a rock 'n' roll band, you know.

I saw Fred Zeppelin do "Long Tall Sally" in 1970...they couldn't hold a candle to Little Richard.

cashman · 05-12-2008, 17:05

and this also beats the crap outa motorhead.

jaysay · 05-12-2008, 17:21

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Originally Posted by cashman

and this also beats the crap outa motorhead.

That just great cashy, really turns the clock back

Taggy · 05-12-2008, 18:12

Got to be The Stones for me i'm afraid.....well them and Los Bravos (Reformed with Wammy of coarse)!! Lol!

Best Regards - Taggy

PS Talking of Wammy, was with him last Wednesday in Benidorm....strangely enough, he aint missing Accy.....Yet!!!

Wynonie Harris · 05-12-2008, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Taggy

PS Talking of Wammy, was with him last Wednesday in Benidorm....strangely enough, he aint missing Accy.....Yet!!!

Maybe not, but when I saw him in Benidorm a couple of years ago, he interrupted his act while we gave a two-man chorus of "Accy...Accy Stanley" to his somewhat bemused audience.

You can take the lad out of Accy...

waterwall · 05-12-2008, 23:01

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

So they either do heavy rock or soft rock...as you say yourself it's "barely even rock 'n' roll".

Just because a heavy metal band covers a rock 'n' roll song, it doesn't make 'em a rock 'n' roll band, you know.

what the hell's heavy rock and soft rock? it's called rock and roll.

LZ3 is rock and roll bordering on folk music.

and as for calling motorhead a heavy metal band doing a rock and roll song - it just sounds ridiculous. you can blur lines between the various elements of rock and roll as you want ("rock" "soft rock" "metal" "heavy metal" "insert other variant of rock and roll"), it's all just drums guitars and rock and roll.

If you want to confine the definition SPECIFICALLY to little richard singing SPECIFICALLY about rock and roll, then i suppose he wins the contest by default.

Wynonie Harris · 05-12-2008, 23:37

A little more education for you, Waterwall...

Rock 'n' roll was a type of music that first appeared in the 50's. Basically, it was rhythm 'n' blues music, but with a more pronounced beat and sometimes a touch of country music. Little Richard, early Elvis, Chuck Berry, Jerry Lee Lewis and others were all renowned practitioners of this artform which involved electric guitars, saxophones, pianos, all pounding out a basic 12 bar blues format. The songs were short and the lyrics were simple, concerning girls, cars, dances and girls.

Although this musical form carried on into the 60's, as the decade wore on, it was to a large degree replaced by something called rock music. Although rock music also utilised guitars and drums, it did so in a different way, replacing the simple backbeat with a sledgehammer assault on the drum kit and cranking up the guitars to max volume to produce heavy riffs. Lyrical concerns became more serious or poetic and the old three minute song format went out of the window, as songs were transformed into multi-part epics or extended jams.

That's the difference between rock 'n' roll and rock. Little Richard is rock 'n' roll, Led Zeppelin is rock...got that? Good! Awopbopaloobopalopbamboom...

waterwall · 06-12-2008, 00:40

Haha. Nice try. But anyone who has to spiel on like that trying to get out of a sticky corner doesn't truly understand rock and roll. Probably a cut paste job but still some of your own work, I'm sure. An interesting opinion of the history of rock and roll.

Led Zeppellin are rock and roll sweetheart. You can shove all your other tacky genre names up your X Factor.

Wynonie Harris · 06-12-2008, 10:38

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Originally Posted by waterwall

Haha. Nice try. But anyone who has to spiel on like that trying to get out of a sticky corner doesn't truly understand rock and roll. Probably a cut paste job but still some of your own work, I'm sure. An interesting opinion of the history of rock and roll.

Led Zeppellin are rock and roll sweetheart. You can shove all your other tacky genre names up your X Factor.

Wrong again. Not a cut and paste job, but all my own work, for what's it's worth. I suppose it's unusual for you to come across someone who can write two paragraphs of literate, coherent prose, without resorting to copying, but it is possible, you know.

It's also possible to argue without resorting to cheap insults. But I suppose that's what you do when you're losing a debate. You've got a lot to learn, Waterwall.

waterwall · 06-12-2008, 16:00

i don't recall any cheap insults from myself. no need to whinge and get pompous and offensive just cause no ones supporting little richard. go and listen to some great rock n roll to knock that chip off your shoulder.

(i cant really argue with someone who's adamant led zep aren't rock n roll, as i said, it's an "interesting" opinion and i'm happy to leave you with it)

cashman · 06-12-2008, 16:21

ya can argue till the cows come home waterwall, Led Zep were never rocknroll, just a good rock band. you obviously will never see the differance, but don't expect ya too. if i played them at a rocknroll night i would get slated.

beechy · 06-12-2008, 18:15

jerry lee lewis

little richard

gene vincent

eddie cochran

waterwall · 06-12-2008, 19:28

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Originally Posted by cashman

ya can argue till the cows come home waterwall, Led Zep were never rocknroll, just a good rock band. you obviously will never see the differance, but don't expect ya too. if i played them at a rocknroll night i would get slated.

ive played plenty of led zep songs at rock n roll nights (including led zep song rock and roll haha) and they always go down a storm. maybe check out a smart venue instead of playing places that slate you for playing quality rock and roll music. it sounds dreadfully pretentious and un rock and roll of them.

cashman · 06-12-2008, 20:40

perhaps you call em rocknroll nights and believe it,

Wynonie Harris · 06-12-2008, 21:20

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Originally Posted by waterwall

i don't recall any cheap insults from myself. no need to whinge and get pompous and offensive just cause no ones supporting little richard. go and listen to some great rock n roll to knock that chip off your shoulder.

(i cant really argue with someone who's adamant led zep aren't rock n roll, as i said, it's an "interesting" opinion and i'm happy to leave you with it)

So could you explain to me where I've been "offensive" because, the way I see it, you're the only one who's telling people to "shove" it. Still. I suppose that's the sort of thing you resort to when you're on dodgy ground.

As for Led Zeppelin, a great rock band (if you like that sort of thing), but never a rock 'n' roll band in a thousand years. Come back when you've learnt a little more about postwar popular music.