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01-04-2012, 09:31
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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I don't think I've said that. Just to let you know my take on drugs misuse I will repeat what I have said on other threads. Apologies to everyone else for being repetative.
I have worked with young people who misuse substances for a number of years and I have seen first hand the devastating effects they can have on lives, not only of the user but also their families and of course the victims of the crimes drug users commit to either feed their habit or as a result of using mind altering substances. People with their lives and prospects in front of them become motivated only by where their next fix will come from and couldn't care less about anything else.
I won't go on about it any further although I could, but my point is that I cannot see any justification for legalising currently illegal substances. If they were to be legalised there would still be a black market - look at the current illegal trade in alcohol, tobacco and even DVDs, all of which are legal, but the duty on tobacco and alcohol means that people will always want cheaper options - the same would be true if drugs were legalised.
You seem to have me down as an old, ill informed and uneducated bigot Kestrelx. I have based my comments on professional knowledge and tried to be objective regarding my opinions. If your opinion is different to mine then so be it, I'm not really bothered nor am I trying to change the world. I am merely voicing my opinion based on the facts that I know from my own experience.
And as I said previously on this particular thread, I would never dismiss people purely because they have previously used or are currently using illegal (or legal) substances. I don't particularly like or dislike Oasis but I do find Noel Gallagher to be an entertaining and articulate person who is interesting to listen to. The fact that he used drugs is irrelevant. And for every Noel Gallagher there are thousands of others who have not managed their substance use so successfully.
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Your right about that susie, just look up the 27 for a who's who list of those that didn't
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01-04-2012, 11:10
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Your right about that susie,
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What you been sniffing ??? I've told you before, lay off the wine gums !
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01-04-2012, 11:15
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Your right about that susie, just look up the 27 for a who's who list of those that didn't
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What you been sniffing ??? I've told you before, lay off the wine gums !
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Thought it might be an April Fool, to see if I'd notice - well I did but thought I'd leave it to one of my trusty friends to reply so eloquently!
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01-04-2012, 12:07
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Funny that shaker, I have an extensive record collection and can't seem to find one of Oasis, suppose its a matter of whether you like that type of music, can say exactly the same about The Smiths and Stone Roses, its a matter of taste really, to me Oasis were trying to emulate the Beatles, which I think one of the Gallaghers once said, but to me they didn't do a very good job in that department
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Jaysay, I didn't say that everybody liked Oasis and bought one of their records. I merely stated the fact that Oasis were the biggest band of their generation when they reached their peak popularity circa 1996. I only stated this to clear up what was said by the interviewee in the BBC4 programme, as several posters here wildly (perhaps intentionally) misinterpreted it.
People will hear what they want to hear and rear what they want to read, I suppose. This is shown most evidently in the posters on this thread using the Noel Gallagher interview on BBC4 to push forward their agenda on the issue of drugs, manipulating the words of the interviewee. Very strange behaviour.
I only posted to try and point posters towards what was actually said in the interview but it seems there is little hope of success.
Play nice, children.
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01-04-2012, 16:37
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Your right about that susie, just look up the 27 for a who's who list of those that didn't
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Sorry Jaysay I think you're getting me mixed up with Susie, I'm Anne, not a problem for me but I don't know if Susie supports my beliefs!
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01-04-2012, 16:42
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Jaysay, I didn't say that everybody liked Oasis and bought one of their records. I merely stated the fact that Oasis were the biggest band of their generation when they reached their peak popularity circa 1996. I only stated this to clear up what was said by the interviewee in the BBC4 programme, as several posters here wildly (perhaps intentionally) misinterpreted it.
People will hear what they want to hear and rear what they want to read, I suppose. This is shown most evidently in the posters on this thread using the Noel Gallagher interview on BBC4 to push forward their agenda on the issue of drugs, manipulating the words of the interviewee. Very strange behaviour.
I only posted to try and point posters towards what was actually said in the interview but it seems there is little hope of success.
Play nice, children.
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Oasis were extremely popular in 1996 and at that time were probably more popular than the Beatles. That doesn't make them better musicians than the Beatles, just that there was nothing better at the time.
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01-04-2012, 17:01
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Sorry Jaysay I think you're getting me mixed up with Susie, I'm Anne, not a problem for me but I don't know if Susie supports my beliefs!
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I had noticed, Anne, but couldn't think of a suitable comeback - I let DaveinGermany do it for me!
As with many things on Accyweb and life generally, I'm with you on some things but not others. On this thread, no I do not like Oasis, never did, and find the Gallaghers unbearable. Best ignored.
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01-04-2012, 17:51
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Sorry Jaysay I think you're getting me mixed up with Susie, I'm Anne, not a problem for me but I don't know if Susie supports my beliefs!
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That's my trouble I always get beautiful young ladies mixed up, I'll have to try harder
But the point I was making is if you want to see a list of people who have ruined their lives, google THE 27 makes interesting reading
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01-04-2012, 18:06
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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That's my trouble I always get beautiful young ladies mixed up, I'll have to try harder
But the point I was making is if you want to see a list of people who have ruined their lives, google THE 27 makes interesting reading
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Thank you Jaysay I'm looking in the mirror and preening at your comment, and I'm sure Susie is doing the same as we speak! And from my point of view thank you so much for the 'young' comment!!
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01-04-2012, 18:32
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Thank you Jaysay I'm looking in the mirror and preening at your comment, and I'm sure Susie is doing the same as we speak! And from my point of view thank you so much for the 'young' comment!!
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Oh yes Anne at least our opinions on this coincide!
And that is an interesting topic Jaysay, knew about some of them but didnt realise there were so many.
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01-04-2012, 18:46
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Thank you Jaysay I'm looking in the mirror and preening at your comment, and I'm sure Susie is doing the same as we speak! And from my point of view thank you so much for the 'young' comment!!
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Just had a look, how interesting is that!
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02-04-2012, 08:23
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Your right about that susie, just look up the 27 for a who's who list of those that didn't
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Sorry, I used the wrong quote above, should have been this one!
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02-04-2012, 08:58
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Just had a look, how interesting is that!
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I found it quite unbelievable when I first looked at it about 3 years ago, but its food for thought
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02-04-2012, 09:16
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Jaysay, I didn't say that everybody liked Oasis and bought one of their records. I merely stated the fact that Oasis were the biggest band of their generation when they reached their peak popularity circa 1996. I only stated this to clear up what was said by the interviewee in the BBC4 programme, as several posters here wildly (perhaps intentionally) misinterpreted it.
People will hear what they want to hear and rear what they want to read, I suppose. This is shown most evidently in the posters on this thread using the Noel Gallagher interview on BBC4 to push forward their agenda on the issue of drugs, manipulating the words of the interviewee. Very strange behaviour.
I only posted to try and point posters towards what was actually said in the interview but it seems there is little hope of success.
Play nice, children.
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Noel has said that he was "Bigger than God!" again copying what Lennon said - when pulled up about it, he said he meant "taller!" So how can he be taller than god?
He also recently said "I'm the reason you got into music!"
His Ego seems bigger than God and everything else on this planet!
OK hats off - the first 2 Oasis LP's I think are excellent but I don't think they managed to creatively live up to the promise! Yes the Knebworth gig they did, I think broke attendance records. But all in all they are more like Status Quo than the Beatles - the Beatles had so much character and each member had depth to them. Oasis are not in the same league - inspite of Noel's ego!
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02-04-2012, 16:55
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Re: Noel Gallagher Interview!
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Oasis were extremely popular in 1996 and at that time were probably more popular than the Beatles. That doesn't make them better musicians than the Beatles, just that there was nothing better at the time.
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...no one has said they were better than The Beatles.
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Noel has said that he was "Bigger than God!" again copying what Lennon said - when pulled up about it, he said he meant "taller!" So how can he be taller than god?
He also recently said "I'm the reason you got into music!"
His Ego seems bigger than God and everything else on this planet!
OK hats off - the first 2 Oasis LP's I think are excellent but I don't think they managed to creatively live up to the promise! Yes the Knebworth gig they did, I think broke attendance records. But all in all they are more like Status Quo than the Beatles - the Beatles had so much character and each member had depth to them. Oasis are not in the same league - inspite of Noel's ego!
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None of this detracts from the fact that Noel Gallagher was correct when he said Oasis were the biggest band in the world at their peak - at that time.
Really is like banging one's head against a Nori brick on this thread.
Last edited by shakermaker; 02-04-2012 at 16:58.
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