Punk heralded the death of pop

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Boeing Guy

The same could be said of any psychedelic, new age, prog rock music. Have you listened to The Yes Album? Or Foxtrot by Genesis?


I have never abused any drug, legal or otherwise, yet I am a huge Pink Floyd fan as well as prog rock and find Sgt Peppers lonely hearts club band one of the finest albums of all time. Yet I do not feel the need to be stoned or high on drugs to enjoy them.

Just because a musician took drugs, is not a endorsement of them.
In fact David Gilmour did take cocaine during his divorce with then wife Ginger, he refers to the "usual rock star coke lifestyle"

And I quote from another website here:
I must say, Gilmour nails it on the head with one line, and this is a direct quote....."It's a drug that does nothing for anyone." True words, those! Actually it turns people into shells of people. It has the ability to deceive it's user, building up false confidence, "allowing" them to become more talkative and all the rest. "It left me with a prematurely aged heart", was another comment Gilmour made on the subject.

So back to the subject matter, Punk did not kill off Pop music, end of

Well a lot of these bands may have only taken LSD once or twice but after that if you carry on smoking dope it can bring back the acid effect, so that explains why they carried on making that kind of music.

Regardless the issue is "would Floyd, Yes, Genesis and all the others made that kind of music without LSD?" Because it all came out of the Psychedelic scene which was based on LSD.

Drugs uncovered: The link between drugs and music | Society | The Observer

Cocaine and LSD are 2 totally different drugs. Funny how it took Dave Gilmour ex amount of money spent on Cocaine to come to those conclusions.

No Punk did not Kill off pop music I don't think it aimed to!

Have you seen this TV advert with Joey Ramones track - up your street as it's for holidays...

[mobertol]

Ahhhh...some New Wave! being a Simple Mind myself...
Just in case anyone was forgetting about me


Saw them by chance at a little music festival in Chateaux Arnoux in Provence in 1998 -fab concert, Jim's hair was much shorter, met them after in the village -really nice folks.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Ahhhh...some New Wave! being a Simple Mind myself...
Just in case anyone was forgetting about me
Simple Minds - Don't You (Forget About Me) - YouTube[/URL]

Saw them by chance at a little music festival in Chateaux Arnoux in Provence in 1998 -fab concert, Jim's hair was much shorter, met them after in the village -really nice folks.

Simple Minds aren't new wave they are more like Nu Romantics! Then became rock

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Simple Minds aren't new wave they are more like Nu Romantics! Then became rock

Split all the hairs you want...New this or that..



Ahhhhhh! Vienna!

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Split all the hairs you want...New this or that..



Ahhhhhh! Vienna!

Have you heard this? A "new - wave" band from Accy!

[kestrelx]

[mobertol]

Interesting film -isn't it funny how time and distance make something which was seen as shocking and threatening now seem faintly laughable.

Glad I never donned the safety pins and chains myself - might have ended up like the two "old" punks who feature at the end

They just about prove that punk is, if not dead, then not "wearing well with age"!

Whereas pop lives on..


Another favourite of mine, the dress over trousers is still fashionable and I love the earrings

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Interesting film -isn't it funny how time and distance make something which was seen as shocking and threatening now seem faintly laughable.

Glad I never donned the safety pins and chains myself - might have ended up like the two "old" punks who feature at the end

They just about prove that punk is, if not dead, then not "wearing well with age"!

Whereas pop lives on..

Another favourite of mine, the dress over trousers is still fashionable and I love the earrings

Everybody gets old. Look at Maggie Thatcher - a shadow of what she was and it happens to everybody. Punk was a reaction and a statement against the system - today Pop music is part of the system. People like Bob Geldof and Paul Morley say that pop music doesn't have a cause any more it's basically just entertainment. Punk was more than entertainment. One thing that changed with punk is that people started singing about things that weren't sung about before, such as basic issues of life, being unemployed, politics, bodily functions and so on - subjects that hadn't been sung about before. Punk had it's own films...



Punk lives on as much as Scritti Politti does. Most of the music in the chart today is not like punk or Scritti Politti! But the attitude of punk can be seen in some people take singer Pink also Amy Winehouse had a punk attitude. So the pop of today is not the pop of yesterday.

[mobertol]

I don't follow the charts these days -can't stand commercial radio stations with all the useless banter and the same songs being played over and over.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by mobertol

I don't follow the charts these days -can't stand commercial radio stations with all the useless banter and the same songs being played over and over.

Its a pity you can't get Vintage TV CHANNEL 369 on Sky mobertol, its great for 50s 60s 70s 80s music, its on all the time in my gaff, its like a backdrop to AccyWeb

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Its a pity you can't get Vintage TV CHANNEL 369 on Sky mobertol, its great for 50s 60s 70s 80s music, its on all the time in my gaff, its like a backdrop to AccyWeb

The channels are different over here Jay but I do put on 1980's music on 701 at SKY! It's amazing how many songs you forget about but when you hear them again, for the first time in years, you immediately remember all the words.

Heard this again the other day which we used to love back whenever!

Definitely different but somehow not as good as i remember

[mobertol]

Modern pop, been listening to this a lot lately - love this song it has a particular atosphere to it and Gotye and Kimbra both have good voices,the video is really very clever too!

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by mobertol

I don't follow the charts these days -can't stand commercial radio stations with all the useless banter and the same songs being played over and over.

I occasionally listen to it, I think it's much more uniform these days; that is there are strict standards of "cool" to get in the chart, you'd never get a Worzels type record in the chart these days because they are all to busy being hip and trendy. Not that I'd want a Worzels type record in the chart!

[Restless]

I absolutely hate the link between LSD and Pink Floyd. I was often told "you have to listen to this on acid"

I would rather (back then)take LSD and bash my head against a wall that listen that rubbish.

Originally Posted by kestrelx

No, the issue here is not that LSD is good, but that it was a major influence on Pink Floyds music - come on you can't deny that their music is Trip music!

[Mancie]

Was just thinking tunes like Mobertol's Gary Numan tune was 1979.. don't think it can be classed as punk.. no way punk killed pop.