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Old 09-05-2012, 21:23   #181
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Punk augmented some pop? Some pop is total crap though. Punk circa 1976 changed music forever
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Old 09-05-2012, 21:39   #182
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Punk augmented some pop? Some pop is total crap though. Punk circa 1976 changed music forever
Let's face it punk was crap..it did pave the way for some good "new wave" music in the UK that was good.. but at they end of the day chart music is "pop"
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Old 09-05-2012, 21:41   #183
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Got to disagree. Clash, Sex Pistols, Stiff Little Fingers, Buzzcocks and Damned were brilliant.
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Old 09-05-2012, 21:56   #184
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Got to disagree. Clash, Sex Pistols, Stiff Little Fingers, Buzzcocks and Damned were brilliant.
Yes of course.. but most of them ended up making pop songs.
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Old 09-05-2012, 22:01   #185
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Unfortunately I can't disagree there apart from maybe SLF.
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Old 09-05-2012, 22:07   #186
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Ahhhh...some New Wave! being a Simple Mind
Reckon this is as close as Simple Minds got to New Wave
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Old 09-05-2012, 23:28   #187
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Well UK punk left something to be desired.... US hardcore punk... hmm now some of those guys did great songs. Don't like many but I love Angry Samoans 'back to Samoa' album
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Punk did cause the impact of new wave music in the UK .. new wave like Magazine, Buzzcocks.. even the Jam.
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I jumped the gun there .. this is "new wave" from Magazine in 1977 when Punk was in full swing.. Motorcade

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I absolutely hate the link between LSD and Pink Floyd. I was often told "you have to listen to this on acid"

I would rather (back then)take LSD and bash my head against a wall that listen that rubbish.
I wasn't a big Pink Floyd fan in the 70's but I heard their records a few occasions and the lyrics from Dark Side of the Moon also stuck in my mind...

"Hanging around on a piece of ground in your home town, waiting for someone or something to show you the way!"

I never taken LSD and listened to Pink Floyd - but those lyrics strike a bell!
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Punk augmented some pop? Some pop is total crap though. Punk circa 1976 changed music forever
Punk changed Pop music without a doubt...

Artists like Elvis Costello were launched by Punk...
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Prefer Joe Jackson to Elvis Costello - this is a great song-hadn't heard it in years...



Not a bit influenced by punk!
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Prefer Joe Jackson to Elvis Costello - this is a great song-hadn't heard it in years...



Not a bit influenced by punk!
Never like Elvis Costello mobertol, never floated my boat at all
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Old 12-05-2012, 16:34   #194
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Not a bit influenced by punk!
You seem determined to undermine the fact that punk changed the music business, that is fact. For one it opened the door for mass indie music market and in the light of punk a multitude of indie record labels sprang up and the DIY ethic brought on by punk was responsible for this. Joe Jackson would probably have not got a record deal but for Punk. Regardless I only remember 2 of his songs - but he did come out on that crest of a NEW WAVE launched by punk rock.

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Being a big fan of Joe Jackson, I got into him in the early 80's, I would say he is anything but punk.
Night and Day, the album which 'Steppin Out' was off was a nod and tribute to Cole Porter.
he is just finishing a tribute album to Duke Ellington, his work comprises Classical, Jazz, Pop and Rock sometimes combining them all.
I have seen him a few times live and he is one of the best live acts I have ever seen.

To say that Punk paved the way for him, well if having a record producer hear your tape, then signing you is down to the influence of punk so be it. but where does that leave The Beatles.
His label at the time was A&M a rather large label.

To be fair, I always thought the start of DIY etc started with the Teac A3440 4 track reel to reel and the Tascam home studio that used cassettes.

Maybe we should class Marillion as punk, they don't have a record label, instead rely on their fans to buy albums up front, so they can record them.
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