Tortured genius/talentless smackhead?

garinda · 13-11-2006, 00:28

I've just watched BBC's Arena programme on Pete Doherty.

There he was smacked up to the eyeballs, drawing in a book with his own blood from a syringe. Feted as the poetic voice for the new centuries youth. A modern day Baudelaire. Proust with needle tracked arms, and a silly hat.

Interviewer-'What was it like in prison, the last time you were in?'

Doherty-'It was like a prison.'

Very profound.

I wanted against my better judgement to like him, and his band. They aren't bad, but then again they aren't any better than a lot of other indie bands around. Musically they reminded me of a provincal sixthform band's take on punk, circa 1979. Slightly missing the point, and the beat. I like boundaries being pushed, but this man is no Thin White Duke, no Hendrix or Joplin, who used narcotics to push their creativity over the edge and into the abyss.

Most of their audience seemed fairly straight. Concert goers who had followed his media life in the tabloids, and thought it was too good an opportunity to miss what could always be his last concert if he highballed just a bit too far.

The press just seem to write about him because in a manufactured boyband world he is relatively bad, and being engaged to Kate Moss does at least make the stories more photogenic to look at. But if you are going to die young and live forever you really need a strong body of work to back up your claim to infamy. It would also help if you were pretty, rather than looking like an anemic Bushbaby.

Am I getting old, and just don't recognise his talent, or am I right in thinking he's all hype and no substance?

Will anybody even care in five years time, and did Arena chose the wrong singing junkie to focus on?

Doug · 13-11-2006, 00:37

This link is for the Newsnight Interview for those like me, who have no idea who the guy is. The question I have to ask is if someone can't stand on there own two feet, how are we to look up at them.

BBC NEWS | Programmes | Newsnight | Pete Doherty: Cool icon, hard drugs

Tinkerbelle · 13-11-2006, 00:38

He's just one f***ed up puppy!

Burn me at the stake

for not having a more eloquent reply but I haven't got the time of day for people like him!

garinda · 13-11-2006, 00:42

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Originally Posted by Doug

This link is for the Newsnight Interview for those like me, who have no idea who the guy is. The question I have to ask is if someone can't stand on there own two feet, how are we to look up at them.

BBC NEWS | Programmes | Newsnight | Pete Doherty: Cool icon, hard drugs

A lot of the concert footage the BBC showed saw him just laying on the stage, and people were literally looking up at him...out stone cold.

Doug · 13-11-2006, 00:55

I believe if you are given a talent or even develop one in later life you should use it to better the lives of others, I’m not saying people shouldn’t profit from it either. But people like this just take the **** in my opinion, what image does this present to anyone let alone those who are impressionable. Got to agree with the fairy on this one.......

garinda · 13-11-2006, 00:58

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Originally Posted by Doug

I believe if you are given a talent or even develop one in later life you should use it to better the lives of others, I’m not saying people shouldn’t profit from it either. But people like this just take the **** in my opinion, what image does this present to anyone let alone those who are impressionable. Got to agree with the fairy on this one.......

That's Sir Fairy to you serf munchkin.

Doug · 13-11-2006, 01:00

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Originally Posted by garinda

That's Sir Fairy to you serf munchkin.

Idiot, I ment the other fairy....................

garinda · 13-11-2006, 01:05

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Originally Posted by Doug

Idiot, I ment the other fairy....................

That's ok, I meant the other munchkin too, not you.

I wouldn't be so rude!.

Doug · 13-11-2006, 01:07

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Originally Posted by garinda

That's ok, I meant the other munchkin too, not you.

I wouldn't be so rude!.

It's not like you haven't before is it........

Your the one in the middle right, So who are the other two?

Tinkerbelle · 13-11-2006, 01:10

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Originally Posted by garinda

That's ok, I meant the other munchkin too, not you.

Doherty? In Wizard of Oz

Missed that one.

garinda · 13-11-2006, 01:22

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Doherty? In Wizard of Oz

Missed that one.

(No, I did mean Doug really.

)

Tinkerbelle · 13-11-2006, 01:27

Doug was in Wizard of Oz

Missed that one.

Time to put down the funny smelling fag Doherty gave me I think

garinda · 13-11-2006, 01:32

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Doug was in Wizard of Oz

Missed that one.

Time to put down the funny smelling fag Doherty gave me I think

....or just sing the Munchkin song, which probably makes sense if your off your tree.

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/h...6/lullloll.htm

Tinkerbelle · 13-11-2006, 01:41

Welcome to munchkin world

Doug · 13-11-2006, 01:41

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Originally Posted by Tinkerbelle

Doug was in Wizard of Oz

Missed that one.

Time to put down the funny smelling fag Doherty gave me I think

Save us a puff Tinks..............