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17-07-2014, 21:01
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Re: £20 for a match - or less than £14.....
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18-07-2014, 07:15
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Re: £20 for a match - or less than £14.....
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Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN
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This Flexi Ticket offer is a real bargain for the fans that are unable to attend matches on a regular basis
(On Wednesday 23rd July and Saturday 26th July (and these dates ONLY) flexi-tickets will be available from the club for just £135)
? why are they only available on just these two friendly match days
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18-07-2014, 07:46
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Re: £20 for a match - or less than £14.....
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Originally Posted by accybeme
This Flexi Ticket offer is a real bargain for the fans that are unable to attend matches on a regular basis
(On Wednesday 23rd July and Saturday 26th July (and these dates ONLY) flexi-tickets will be available from the club for just £135)
? why are they only available on just these two friendly match days
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They are available at all times, but the special offer is for those 2 days.
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18-07-2014, 16:12
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Re: £20 for a match - or less than £14.....
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Originally Posted by accybeme
This Flexi Ticket offer is a real bargain for the fans that are unable to attend matches on a regular basis
(On Wednesday 23rd July and Saturday 26th July (and these dates ONLY) flexi-tickets will be available from the club for just £135)
? why are they only available on just these two friendly match days
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A bit of an explanation from our Chairman here
Accrington Stanley offer ticket deal to neighbours (From Lancashire Telegraph)
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18-07-2014, 17:45
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Re: £20 for a match
Seems a good idea to me,well worth trying.
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18-07-2014, 19:14
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Re: £20 for a match - or less than £14.....
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thanks for the link, now I can see the thinking behind the offer on the two days in question, hope we get a decent uptake from the offer, many fans are restricted to following the teams away from home be it by cost or time, it would be handy if Burnley & Blackburn reciprocated the offer to Stanley fans
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19-07-2014, 12:07
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Re: £20 for a match
walk on prices SHOULD have been announced at the same time as season tickets and flexi tickets to give people all the information they need or want in order to make an educated decision.
£20 walk on at Accrington is an absolutely shocking decision and will come back to bite us on the arse.
I love my club but rarely get chance to get on due to work or finance restrictions and £20 a game is a nail in the coffin for me. I understand the marketing ploy is to incentivise the bulk buys and reward the regulars in order to maximise the away fan (or irregular home fan) BUT I personally would like to see a far greater effort going in to persuading the irregulars to attend more often. Sitting round a table and discussing figures, or offering 3for2's etc isn't an offer to attract irregulars - they need a plan of some sort.
Good luck this season Stanley.
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19-07-2014, 19:13
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Re: £20 for a match
I'm sorry but I've had a chat with a few of my mates who go to Stanley 3 or 4 times a season and they will not be going for £20. It's too steep for this level of football and the state of the ground.
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19-07-2014, 20:04
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Re: £20 for a match
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
walk on prices SHOULD have been announced at the same time as season tickets and flexi tickets to give people all the information they need or want in order to make an educated decision.
£20 walk on at Accrington is an absolutely shocking decision and will come back to bite us on the arse.
I love my club but rarely get chance to get on due to work or finance restrictions and £20 a game is a nail in the coffin for me. I understand the marketing ploy is to incentivise the bulk buys and reward the regulars in order to maximise the away fan (or irregular home fan) BUT I personally would like to see a far greater effort going in to persuading the irregulars to attend more often. Sitting round a table and discussing figures, or offering 3for2's etc isn't an offer to attract irregulars - they need a plan of some sort.
Good luck this season Stanley.
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I don't particularly agree with the new price either but I can see where the club is coming from. It seems that, even at a fiver when we played Wimbledon a couple of seasons ago, the crowd wasn't boosted enough to make it worthwhile and they didn't come back at the next full price game. Some people would rather stay in the pub and watch the Premiership than go to a game at any price. Football these days is available on TV at 3 o'clock via foreign channels and people will watch it with a pint rather than spend the money to stand in the cold watching a team of triers. I've never been to our local team who play in the Lowland league for years and I can see into their ground from my window.
The economics are that for every 100 away fans paying £20 instead of £15 that would need 34 walkons paying the same £15 and you can't charge away fans more than home fans on a single basis. The club appear to be trying to placate regulars by cheap season tickets and semi regulars with cheap flexi tickets. I'm not sure how successful targeting Rovers and Clarets fans with flexi tickets will be as rovers will be at home when we are and all the clarets games will be on TV or available online as they are in the premiership but it has to be tried and it also meas that Stanley fans can get cheaper flexi tickets and it could boost the home attendance at the friendlies.
Macca is right that the club should have announced the prices earlier as there may have been a bigger early bird take up under the new price structure. I also think that cash or check is a mistake as nobody carries a chequebook these days. I'm not even sure where mine is as nobody takes them anymore. And how many people carry an extra £135 to a game? It works fine if people have read about the offer and bring cash or a cheque but what about those that see it at the match and want to pay by card?
Are the flexi tickets going to work like they did in previous season where 1 person can go to 10 games or 10 people to 1 game or any other combination? If it does than get it pushed as such. Someday might not want to go to 10 games but a group might want to go to 2 or 3 together and club together to buy one or two flexitickets.
Why not push them online as well as such. If card are out then go for bank transfer, it costs next to nothing and is instantaneous. The business plan can't just be based on the away fan economics there needs to be work done to push all ticket sales and I'm sure the club would welcome all suggestions and any constructive criticism.
Now time for the pub
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21-07-2014, 21:16
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Re: £20 for a match
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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod
walk on prices SHOULD have been announced at the same time as season tickets and flexi tickets to give people all the information they need or want in order to make an educated decision.
£20 walk on at Accrington is an absolutely shocking decision and will come back to bite us on the arse.
I love my club but rarely get chance to get on due to work or finance restrictions and £20 a game is a nail in the coffin for me. I understand the marketing ploy is to incentivise the bulk buys and reward the regulars in order to maximise the away fan (or irregular home fan) BUT I personally would like to see a far greater effort going in to persuading the irregulars to attend more often. Sitting round a table and discussing figures, or offering 3for2's etc isn't an offer to attract irregulars - they need a plan of some sort.
Good luck this season Stanley.
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Agree with you.
Pricing is wrong for walk ons and flexi tickets. They are geared towards season ticket holders and away fans only, that means the club will potentially be losing out on walk ons and flexi ticket sales. All money into the pot counts at the end of day and the more bums on seats the better.
Walk ons could've been £17 pre purchased and £19 on the day to catch out away fans to get more money that way. Flexi tickets have increased 50% when it should've been around £130 (30%) which would save £6 per game potentially. To get 13 free games on early bird season ticket prices is a big amount, normally around 6-8 games for other clubs.
We ask for more people to come to games as their second team but then we shoot ourselves in the foot with daft price increases. Why not offer something along the lines of a half season ticket so when Burnley are away they can attend games at Accy? This is one way of marketing tickets at local rival supporters to increase walk ons.
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21-07-2014, 21:51
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Re: £20 for a match
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Walk ons could've been £17 pre purchased and £19 on the day to catch out away fans to get more money that way.
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I'm not convinced pre-purchasing has ever worked unless it's a big game. Would be interesting to know what the take up has been in the past where it's been used.
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21-07-2014, 22:11
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Re: £20 for a match
well I don't think my brother will be going to watch Stanley this season not at £20 ... he normally goes about 4 or 5 times a season .. he's a rovers supporter .. and he's been known to take me and my nephew who is a burnley supporter ..
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21-07-2014, 22:30
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Re: £20 for a match
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I'm not convinced pre-purchasing has ever worked unless it's a big game. Would be interesting to know what the take up has been in the past where it's been used.
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I almost always booked an advance ticket because it meant that I would go to the game rather than wake up at 7 am and think "nah, I won't bother. Plus it meant that it was less to spend on the day especially if I'd booked the train tickets in advance. Having said that I don't think there were many picking up tickets to make it worthwhile. Plus is there not a delay in getting the money from card payments made online? I've heard that used as a reason with other things.
Possibly the club haven't explained the reasoning behind the price structure well enough hence the complaints. I'd guess, as I've said before, that season tickets have to be so cheap as they are usually the only income during the close season. To offset this money has to be found elsewhere and that is usually from matchday sales. It would be interesting to compare the figures for income on a matchday from non season tickets for additional home fans v away fans. Presumably the club have done this or something like this to arrive at the current pricing structure?
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22-07-2014, 07:22
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Re: £20 for a match
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I'm not convinced pre-purchasing has ever worked unless it's a big game. Would be interesting to know what the take up has been in the past where it's been used.
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Dave your spot on!! We had staff and a system (the Rolls Royce of ticketing) to pre-sell around a dozen tickets a game. We were also duty bound to send tickets to away clubs due to the price differential. This meant a loss of revenue as they can charge 5% commission to take our money!!
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22-07-2014, 07:23
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Re: £20 for a match
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I almost always booked an advance ticket because it meant that I would go to the game rather than wake up at 7 am and think "nah, I won't bother. Plus it meant that it was less to spend on the day especially if I'd booked the train tickets in advance. Having said that I don't think there were many picking up tickets to make it worthwhile. Plus is there not a delay in getting the money from card payments made online? I've heard that used as a reason with other things.
Possibly the club haven't explained the reasoning behind the price structure well enough hence the complaints. I'd guess, as I've said before, that season tickets have to be so cheap as they are usually the only income during the close season. To offset this money has to be found elsewhere and that is usually from matchday sales. It would be interesting to compare the figures for income on a matchday from non season tickets for additional home fans v away fans. Presumably the club have done this or something like this to arrive at the current pricing structure?
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As a Stanley fan you will make that extra effort to buy the ticket. As a floater/ walk on football supporter you probably wouldn't. If it means an extra effort to do something the casual football fan just won't be bothered.
In this day and age you have to make it as easy as possible for people to buy something. It's too easy to spend elsewhere if it only involves a click of a mouse.
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