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[Reamer]

Originally Posted by Kiwi John

... and ERIC and co; How on earth can you let a bloke of MACCAs ability not take a position on your board ??? .. You really should give it consideration.The mans influence and respect from his peers alone would add greatly to the gate- and thats the bonus as his marketing ability and unbridled enthusiasm would be of immense value to ASFC.

Seems to me that Macca has already said that his priorities are with his family at the moment (and rightly so).

[maccawozzagod]

Originally Posted by JEFF

As for Macca's suggestions of what should be done. A couple of years ago we had long winded posts from Macca regarding the Supporters Club about what should have been done and what was going to be done now that Macca was in charge. What happened to all that when it was put into practice, how did all his suggestions and ideas change the Supporters Club. Well I am told that there were four people at the last meeting, that's how much it changed it.

touche Jeff, touche.

what did happen during the 18 months that I was Chairman of the Supporters Club? well we had the largest ever organised away travel (that the club pulled its face at), we organised an open day of great magnitude (that was only pulled weeks before the date due to LCC sticking their noses in on a subject that had been cleared by HBC and Hyndburn Police), as part of the Open Day we had organised the resurrection of the Primary school knockout 7 a-side and had secured sponsors for that event - it was eventually held elsewhere, we broke into our own brand of merchandise (and love it or hate it it roughly broke even on takings and left us with over £2k of stock despite the club not allowing us to sell it through official avenues), we organised The Exhibition that had over 3000 visitors from various corners of the globe (despite the lack of involvement from the club), we represented the club at events that it never been to such as the Mela and Barrowford show, we upgraded membership cards from paper to hard wearing plastic, we secured our own sponsorships for the first time ever and had the membership cards, website and events sponsored by various people. We made marginally more money year on year than in previous years, despite larger outgoings due to things like merchandise, and despite the fact that we did not do a single sponsored event in that time.

My aim when I took over was to increase the profile of the club (ASFC as well as OSC) through various different approaches. This was done with regular radio interviews on 2BR, 107 the Bee, Radio Lancs and Rock FM, articles in 4-4-2 magazine, News of the World, Independant and Guardian newspapers, numerous 'college' type interviews for media studies courses and of course as frequently as possible in the local papers.

The exposure was all well and good and should be maintained as all positive (and it was) publicity is good publicity and helps to dilute any bad publicity (such as the turnign down of Freedom of the Borough and the various tussles with planning over the control room) BUT it doesn't put pound notes in the till and is, cynically, the reason why Mr Whalley doesn't put any emphasis on doing such things. But at the end of the day the club didn't really put any effort into the things we attempted, and this coupled with public apathy, ensured that things never really changed for the better. Before I took over there were numerous people sayin gthe OSC was that that or t'other and only Ossyclogger defending it. Many people said they would come to the meetings if things changed. The meeting where I was voted in saw 18 newcomers attend, looking back it was the largest meeting held for some time. But once that was done some of these people dropped away and many of the people who were attending prior to my appointment stopped going. This might have been because of me or it might have been because they saw the opportunity to get away quick while the going was good. Make no mistake it is a thankless task but one that I worked bloody at trying to do.

MORE PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN THE OSC FOR IT TO BE THE SUCCESS THAT IT DESERVES TO BE.

If people didn't like my brand of doing things then they can do their own - it's not a problem. I always said that if somebody was willing to do something then it shouldn't be backburned - crack on with it. Sponsored events always brought the money in but meant a lot of effort for few people and the same people being asked by 10 folk for sponsor money! I wasn't willing to do that and tried to give the Supporters Club the means to be self sufficient eg the merchandise range. But if you and a few others thought it a good idea then fine, do it. If you think it's a good idea to do lapdances on the coach to a game then fine, do it. The OSC could and should support 'branches'

As for there being only four members at the last meeting or what is going on with the Supporters Club now then you'll have to ask Harwood Red. For similar reasons to why I haven't been to the games, I also have had no involvement with the OSC since the Exhibition ended.

Hope this answers your questions Jeff. (and sorry for being long winded again!)

[JEFF]

[quote=maccawozzagod;672947]and this coupled with public apathy/quote]

That is probably the main reason that we only got 1056 against Barnet

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by Kiwi John

I do not attend matches-its abit far away-but I take exception to your comment suggesting if I don't attend games I am NOT supporting the team.etc.. I have spent around 130 pounds with the club this season.Is that not supporting them ???

Why not read my whole comments I went on to say Or if you consider yourself supporting the team please explain how you are supporting them if you stay away.

As for giving Macca a place on the Board Kiwi John. How much would you expect him to invest in the Club to become a Director ?

[John_Timmins]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Something I have noticed since the post about seats is fans like Willie Miller and Timmins haven't made their views known, not on here or the Ultras site, are you the Ultras spokesman, if so I would be interested to know one or two more views from our more noisier supporters.

sorry but we prefer to chat about it in the pub than sat at the pc

fingers get tired


just stick it back in please lee
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it will end all the problems...honest

[Kiwi John]

Originally Posted by JEFF

Why not read my whole comments I went on to say Or if you consider yourself supporting the team please explain how you are supporting them if you stay away.

As for giving Macca a place on the Board Kiwi John. How much would you expect him to invest in the Club to become a Director ?

Jeff, you can actually be invited to join the Board of Directors of a company without having to be a shareholder or chucking in some money.

[MCR ADIM]

another positive to take from last night......

we are unbeaten at the FES fortress this year

[Grimps]

most off games called off thats why aswell

[southernred]

Originally Posted by Kiwi John

Jeff, you can actually be invited to join the Board of Directors of a company without having to be a shareholder or chucking in some money.

John & others,

To my knowledge to be a director of a private company you need to be a shareholder.

EW has made it no secret that if there are generous rich individuals out there, they can join the board as an associate director. Everybody's case is different so if you want to come on board feel free to get in touch and I'm sure the Chairman will outline whats required!!

[VALAIRIAN]

Originally Posted by southernred

John & others,

To my knowledge to be a director of a private company you need to be a shareholder.

EW has made it no secret that if there are generous rich individuals out there, they can join the board as an associate director. Everybody's case is different so if you want to come on board feel free to get in touch and I'm sure the Chairman will outline whats required!!

Southern - Could a few of us put some cash in and get involved? or does he just want our cash and not our opinions!!

[MCR ADIM]

proberly the latter option!

[afrikaaner]

When we lived in tenerife during the last 2 seasons accy were in non-league football i travelled over 5 times for home matches.Breakdown is 1/flights average 300 euros = 1500 euros,2/fuel from Devon to accy on those occations approximately £300 3/admission fees to accy £60,4/accomodation in accy overnight £125,total=approximately £1500.Does that classify me as a supporter or fan?God knows what it would cost kiwi john to do that,he may not be able to get to see us play but he still has Accy in his heart,keep the faith kiwi your still a supporter in my eyes mate.


ACCY TILL I DIE.

[mab]

Found this while i was surfing the net though it right to share it A few years after Stanley's resignation, Alan Benson, then the Mayor of Accrington, was interviewed in the Football League Review, and his comments are tinged with a bitter regret: "People do not realise just how important a League club is to a town's status and prestige until it is too late. Accrington was known nationally by reason of its soccer team. When you travelled to another part of the country and mentioned where you were from, people immediately linked Accrington to its football club. Now they say, 'Ah, the town which couldn't keep its football team'. Accrington Stanley could have survived with the proper backing."
Forty years down the line, the matter is irrelevant. But you can learn from mistakes. Today, another Accrington Stanley carries the town's standard in the football world. It isn't the same team that competed in the Football League, but that shouldn't matter. It is still our town's team. Forty years after Accrington lost her Football League status, I can't think of a better commemoration than for all of us - the town together - to make our way to the Crown Ground and take responsibility for the Accrington Stanley we are fortunate to have today.

[cashman]

a lot in what alan benson said, still have bitter regrets meself, n its a lifetime ago, ta fer that mab.

[Kiwi John]

Originally Posted by southernred

John & others,

To my knowledge to be a director of a private company you need to be a shareholder.

EW has made it no secret that if there are generous rich individuals out there, they can join the board as an associate director. Everybody's case is different so if you want to come on board feel free to get in touch and I'm sure the Chairman will outline whats required!!

Don't know about your laws, but over here and,I believe, in Aus, you most certainly can be a director of a private company WITHOUT holding shares.
( ..someone could always sell Macca 1 )