accrington stanley diversity forum

maccawozzagod · 01-10-2006, 18:39

what do you all think of the new plan for ASFC to get out and about with in the Asian and underpriveleged areas?

My personal thought is that there is currently too much being undertaken by too few at the club. This has the effect that nothing is running as smoothly and efficiently as it could do. The drive is a good idea of sorts but I think they should have waited until such time as they were able to do it properly. If we have tried and failed with a certain type of venture then you end up having to wait ages until you can try it again.

Kiwi John · 01-10-2006, 19:57

Are these areas within the Accrington/Hyndburn area?

Bagpuss · 01-10-2006, 20:01

Sounds like a load of PC drivel to me, if it's costing anything use the money to sort out the shop. If it's a case of speculating to accumulate then build a roof, if people want to come they will come.

Kiwi John · 01-10-2006, 20:11

Have to agree with BAGPUSS.Get the base product right first.The team is going well,but it sounds like facilities (ie roof and bar) need to be sorted.No use getting new faces to the ground if their experience isn't a pleasent one.A first timer standing ay the Clayton end with the rain ****ing down ain't likely to want to come back in a hurry.Incidentally,are the grandstands always full on matchdays?

Oggy · 01-10-2006, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Kiwi John

Have to agree with BAGPUSS.Get the base product right first.The team is going well,but it sounds like facilities (ie roof and bar) need to be sorted.No use getting new faces to the ground if their experience isn't a pleasent one.A first timer standing ay the Clayton end with the rain ****ing down ain't likely to want to come back in a hurry.Incidentally,are the grandstands always full on matchdays?

So far away, yet so near. No, the grandstands are seldom full, sorry your lazy $5 went down the pan, lazy $5 - brilliant phrase.

Really enjoy your posts, a sense of perspective from afar.

Wynonie Harris · 01-10-2006, 20:59

Personally, I think it's a good idea if it pulls in more punters through the turnstiles.

However, I agree with others that the club must address some very important issues before embarking on schemes like this.

Firstly, the club is losing out on hundreds of pounds worth of revenue at every home match, because of its inaction over building bars behind the Clayton and Coppice Ends. I really cannot understand their thinking on this. OK, it involves some initial outlay, but this will quickly be recouped and then the club will have two excellent money spinners on its hands. Just imagine, all the ale us thirsty Clayton Enders would consume, but, just as importantly, we could be taking money off the fans of other clubs with big followings like Wycombe, Swindon and Walsall.

Secondly, the situation over the merchandise range is nothing short of scandalous. Because of our famous name, merchandise is more important to us than any other club in the lower leagues. We are in a hugely advantageous position where football fans all over the world are likely to buy something associated with Stanley just because of the kudos our name holds. Could the same be said of, for example, Bury? We should, therefore, have a better range of merchandise than most, yet we have probably the most limited range in the football league. We have already missed the boat over the interest created by our historic promotion, but there are still plenty of potential sales out there which we are missing out on.

Come on Stanley, wake up!

Sorry for the thread wander...

Oggy · 01-10-2006, 21:00

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

what do you all think of the new plan for ASFC to get out and about with in the Asian and underpriveleged areas?

My personal thought is that there is currently too much being undertaken by too few at the club. This has the effect that nothing is running as smoothly and efficiently as it could do. The drive is a good idea of sorts but I think they should have waited until such time as they were able to do it properly. If we have tried and failed with a certain type of venture then you end up having to wait ages until you can try it again.

Yes, probably worth starting a new thread rather than my attempt to get something positive out of basic misunderstandings on a couple of recent threads, ( Racism and Sexism ).

My initial thoughts are that the club has managed to tick a box, the official site (Fishy) says the forum is made up from members of the community and officials of the club. Does this include Supporters group, or any other representatives of Stanley fans?

I certainly regard myself as a member of the community, did I miss my invite? All comments welcome,

Doug · 01-10-2006, 22:16

This should be an open door opportunity for all concerned and shouldn’t be seen just as an Asian or underprivileged forum. There is a growing diversity of race; cultural groups and ethnicity in and around the Town not to mention disability, and everyone should be welcome. I am not sure if we as a nation should always be the ones to go out and take the cause to them, other than visiting the schools and special interest groups. I think the club should focus all events in or around the ground, open days, cultural events out of season and the like. That doesn’t mean people churning up the pitch, there’s plenty of space at the FES.

I think people should also bear in mind New Legislation relating to Sexual orientation and Gender reassignment laws which we need to consider both in terms of Employment Law and accommodation at the club.

The Law states that we should move to accommodate those of ethnic or cultural backgrounds as well as those who are disadvantaged and other divers groups and orientations sexual or otherwise. We may as well get use to it, but there’s no reason why it shouldn’t be on our terms.

Doug · 01-10-2006, 22:23

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Originally Posted by Oggy

I certainly regard myself as a member of the community, did I miss my invite? All comments welcome,

If I understand correctly, you are not a Gay lesbian bisexual; you are not disadvantaged, nor do you come from a diversity of cultural backgrounds or races that make up modern Britain. You don't count.

No offence intended.

Oggy · 01-10-2006, 22:37

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Originally Posted by Doug

If I understand correctly, you are not a Gay lesbian bisexual; you are not disadvantaged, nor do you come from a diversity of cultural backgrounds or races that make up modern Britain. You don't count.

No offence intended.

And certainly non taken.

But me a scouser all my life, plus I'm an eighth Spanish, married to a Scot.

Where do we get the forms to be members of the community?

Nice previous post Doug, hope the club read it, somehow doubt they'll understand it.

Doug · 01-10-2006, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Oggy

And certainly non taken.

But me a scouser all my life, plus I'm an eigth Spanish, married to a Scot.

Where do we get the forms to be members of the community?

Nice previous post Doug, hope the club read it, somehow doubt they'll understand it.

Scouser, hardly a minority at ASFC.

Thank you for the comments.

Oggy · 01-10-2006, 22:47

Link to the group the club have set the diversity forum up with

http://www.lancashire-ep.org.uk/html...er/default.php

rob · 01-10-2006, 23:00

the forum is in its very early stages at the moment, in fact it isn't officially launched until november. any volunteers are welcome to get involved, please do email me. this is nothing to do with political correctness, just simply making sure that the club is accessible to all.

Doug · 01-10-2006, 23:02

Excellent link.

Oggy · 01-10-2006, 23:06

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Originally Posted by rob

the forum is in its very early stages at the moment, in fact it isn't officially launched until november. any volunteers are welcome to get involved, please do email me. this is nothing to do with political correctness, just simply making sure that the club is accessible to all.

Thanks for that Rob, what makes the club think it isn't accessible to all?