Are we really a league club?

Revived Red · 13-02-2008, 23:44

I came home this evening after travelling up to watch last night's game. I have now read all the posts - and they make interesting reading.

I agree that we played well in the first half, and it was great to see Toddy back to something like his old form. But there were worries even in the first half. For example, I did not see Phil Doughty make a single tackle - and his distribution was poor.

But the second half was a different matter. Let's not blame the officials - they made poor decisions affecting both teams.

Why on earth did JC not make any substitutions? Even if the players were not tired - and some clearly were - surely a different approach from new players could have borne fruit. It would have given the opposition something new to think about. Why was Mark King on the bench anyway? He has played superbly so far. Why not try David Mannix who seems to have impressed on his only start for us?

But there were other issues, too.

Following the recent arrival of my first grandson, I wanted to buy some baby items in the store. Apparently they are all out of stock.

The man sitting next to me had wanted to buy a programme. He said that the programme store had closed when he arrived at 7.25 and he wondered if programmes were available elsewhere in the ground.

Tannoyman announced that there would be a programme draw for a signed Rommy Boco shirt. No such draw was made. When I asked him about this at the end of the game, he said he hadn't received a text about it.

Regrettably, I am now coming to the conclusion that the club is not functioning as a Football League club at all. None of what I have written is seeking to blame individuals. It seems to me that the problems lie much deeper than that. It is tempting but possibly too easy to blame individuals. The problems with the club are systemic.

I now feel that it is time for a huge rethink about the way the club functions - as a business and as a football club. I sincerely hope that we survive in the league this season. Assuming that we do, and as soon as we do, it is time for that rethink. Team management issues are part of a far wider picture that reflects our failure to plan properly for our entry into the Football League. I KNOW that staff work hard and do their very best with limited resources. But unless there is a change in outlook and a much more professional approach is adopted, I just cannot see us surviving in the Football League for very long.

This has not been an easy post to write, and no doubt there will be some who disagree with me. Can I make one plea first, though? Please don't mention (again!) lack of financial resouces. Professionalism costs nothing.

cashman · 14-02-2008, 00:42

i think thats a damn good post.

Kiwi John · 14-02-2008, 05:15

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Originally Posted by cashman

i think thats a damn good post.

Cashman is spot on...Revived Red,it truely is a good read. Sad though if factualy correct. Would anyone from the club like to respond?

Wynonie Harris · 14-02-2008, 08:37

Superb post, Revived Red, you've hit the nail right on the head there. The only way this club will move forward is if Eric Whalley puts it up for sale at a reasonable price, leaving the way open for someone to purchase it...someone who will invest in the club but, just as importantly, someone who will run the club on totally professional lines, with fresh new ideas to make it a more appealing prospect to the public of Hyndburn.

Alvin the chipmunk · 14-02-2008, 13:16

The simple answer is no, we are not. We are a NPL team that by some miracle finds itself in the football League. We need Coley to keep us up for a few years until the club can catch up with the team on the field.

depechemode · 14-02-2008, 14:19

Well Said , Nonleague We Are And Nonleague We Will Be Again

cashman · 14-02-2008, 14:25

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Originally Posted by depechemode

Well Said , Nonleague We Are And Nonleague We Will Be Again

dont be such a miserable get, just be content they are where they are,with sod all.

Doug · 14-02-2008, 14:53

I’ve been ****ed off with recent events and I’ve made comments about the gentleman parting company with Stanley, but it’s been out of frustration and never, never really meant. The last thing the club needs is a new manager, all that’s needed is the current one to get a grip of the situation and show some leadership. That might be admitting that he’s got thing arse of tit occasionally or investing in new ideas or tactics. There’s something wrong for the morel of the lads to be so low but booing players, walking out of the ground or calling for Coleman’s departure won’t help. Just before people start say there’s a case for calling the pot black just take a look at two photographs of Kipax’s, one from the Chester game “Coleman Elated” and the other from the Lincoln Games “Coleman dejected and hurt” this is a guy that needs support as much as the team does. Move on and pray for a bit of spiritual guidance for the club, failing that ask for God to intervene, he’s a Stanley Supporter, but above all else have faith.

depechemode · 14-02-2008, 15:32

we will win ****** all in this league with this set up , we get laughed at by all teams apart from the daggers . Whalley might love the club but he aint got any money to spend on it , he runs a papermill for crying out loud , such a tight sod .

cashman · 14-02-2008, 15:46

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Originally Posted by depechemode

we will win ****** all in this league with this set up , we get laughed at by all teams apart from the daggers . Whalley might love the club but he aint got any money to spend on it , he runs a papermill for crying out loud , such a tight sod .

ever thought of ringing the samaritans?

yerself · 14-02-2008, 18:44

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Originally Posted by Revived Red

Please don't mention (again!) lack of financial resouces. Professionalism costs nothing.

Never a truer word spoken. Have some karma.

Tin Monkey · 14-02-2008, 19:25

Isn't all this deja vu? Haven't many of us been saying the same thing for the last few years?

yerself · 14-02-2008, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

Isn't all this deja vu? Haven't many of us been saying the same thing for the last few years?

But will the club ever take notice of what many of us can see but they seem to be blinkered towards?

yerself · 14-02-2008, 19:32

On the other hand Walt Disney made millions out of Mickey Mouse.

jaytee · 14-02-2008, 19:33

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Originally Posted by depechemode

we will win ****** all in this league with this set up , we get laughed at by all teams apart from the daggers . Whalley might love the club but he aint got any money to spend on it , he runs a papermill for crying out loud , such a tight sod .

Blimey! There's some miserable folk posting on here. What makes you think other teams are laughing at you? To be fair, there have been major improvements to your ground this season from last time I came. You would like someone with money to take over as Chairman? Be careful what you wish for yourself. Darlington, Crawley, Chester and closer to my neck of the woods, Telford all had "sugar daddies" coming in and look what happened to them. Darlo have crawled back, but their average gate is 3,899 in a 25,000 seater stadium. Put the words, elephant and white together to make a saying. You seem to be making steady progress on and off the field. Have a look at Deva Chat and see what those poor sods are having to put up with at Chester. Their Chairman (now ex), put £5 million in and could put the club into administration at any time. Rumours abound there.