Barnet Thread - Page 6

maccawozzagod · 12-12-2010, 17:43

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Originally Posted by GeorgeReillysHairpiece

It's all about opinions but we obviously have very differing views on what constitutes playing quite well. Our pitch must be a right state, what with all the buses that Accrington were able to drive right through our defence. However cows in and around Accrington need not be too alarmed about the sales of banjos in the area; their backsides won't take any pounding. Lucky for the cows, Lucky for the Bees.

Like I put earlier, if McLeod was on their side yesterday we would have been beaten out of sight. We won, and that's to be celebrated. But we play like that against most teams and McLeod will be scoring consolation goals rather than winning goal.
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maccawozzagod · 12-12-2010, 17:45

January desparately needs the purchase of a cows arse banjo smacker

Kiwi John · 13-12-2010, 04:45

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

January desparately needs the purchase of a cows arse banjo smacker

To cryptic for me Macca, please translate...

Redash · 13-12-2010, 05:59

Some cockney in post 76, implies our strikers couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo.

new red · 13-12-2010, 07:03

Good first half but very lacking in the second. Agree with Redraine Craney and Jacobsen no better than what we got. Putteril should have started I feel. A strikers what we need in the loan window not more midfielders we have surplus already.

football19 · 13-12-2010, 10:07

Redraine seemed to have summed it up until he said they were a better team than there position suggests.
They are the worst team i have seen this year! Read the live bbc comments,its has i saw it,all Acci!,they had 5 shots,Acci had 14,There goals were from a delected shot and direct from our corner.
They never put Acci under any sustained pressure,indeed it was us camped in there half for long periods.
In my opinion we just never got any midfielders getting beyond Gornell ( how many shots did ryan have?).
Two things may have caused this,Jacobson stayed out left and craney stayed farther forward,which meant Ryan was forced to operate on the right ,with Charlie and proccy centre,
At times it was a lazy 4 4 2 system,I am sure it wasnt meant to be like that.
Pass and move style of footy requires a great work ethic,but to throw 2 new lads in,who havent played much footy,is going to disrupt it,hence we started going long,with Bav just punting the ball down field.
Craney blew up with 30 mins to go,why did we leave him on?,did fleetwood insist??? lol

football19 · 13-12-2010, 10:18

I agree with new read about craney and jacobson,but hopefully they get better with match fitness.
What really disappionted me was when razor came on,it looked like he was disinterested ( prob due to only being sub),and made no effort tracking back when he lost posession.
I am one of his biggest fans,but no matter how good he is,Coleman will get rid of people whos attitude is not 100%
Proccy ended up doing the work of 2 men at one stage,and a lot of his work goes un-noticed

Revived Red · 13-12-2010, 15:22

I agree with what has been said in so many recent posts, especially the fact the much of Proccy's work is unnoticed.

I also agree about the work ethic. Jonny Bateson and Dean Winnard were essential to that work ethic at the start of the season. Their overlapping gave us width and made them into an extra forward, so giving the opposition defence more to think about. It was so easy for the Barnet defence - and it has been for others too. I agree about Bavs and the punt down the middle - that is reverting to tactics that have been tried and failed so often in the past. The season started with such great promise but it could be another battle against relegation.

football19 · 13-12-2010, 16:28

Revived red,I think you will find after 6 or 7 games,other teams scouts sussed this out and either pinned the fullbacks back or looked to exploit the space being left ( hence we started shipping goals in at an alarming rate).
Thats when you need to produce a bit of magic or make them come onto you.
Of all the teams we have played,how many teams come to Acci with fullbacks who attack?,not many

Revived Red · 13-12-2010, 19:20

Sorry, football19, but I don't really understand what you are saying. We all know that the likes of Leighton Baines, Ashley Cole etc are attacking full backs. The fact that we all know this doesn't prevent them from being attacking full backs. Our problem was that the work of our attacking full backs and midfielders was not being turned into goals. And this in turn inevitably put pressure on the defence. I'm not convinced that we were shipping goals because we had attacking full backs. The problem was too many individual errors.

It matters not that other teams may come to Accy without attacking full backs. They often come with other options such as wingers, fast and/or powerful strikers, defenders who can read a game.

football19 · 13-12-2010, 20:49

Some good points there revived red !,first and foremost defenders need to defend,getting forward is a bonus,There are 6 men in front of the back four,but rarely does anyone run the channels,when you play one up front,he ends up playing with his back to goal,trying to hold it up.
Your right , got a load of technical players,but no forwards or wingers with blistering pace,Any names in mind?,i remember the barnet lad,Adoahma, or something catching my eye,but hes starring in the championship now for Bristol city.
There was a ginger left winger who played for man utd ( played against us for fylde) who was quick,great crosser and scored goals.
Think his name was micheal burns,hed be worth a punt(if you play for man utd first eleven,your not a bad un),then again hes prob on more money at fylde !!! lol

Pendle Red · 13-12-2010, 20:57

Football 19 you are obviously well drilled in the technical & coaching side of football.

Can I ask you a couple of questions if you don't mind

We are where we are with that in mind what would be your starting eleven for Stanley be and why?

What formation would you play?

Revived Red · 13-12-2010, 21:15

No-one especially in mind, football19. But I do now agree with you.

football19 · 13-12-2010, 21:36

Pendle red,thats a good question,but not one to sit on the fence,so here goes(assuming loan players can play)
I would change our system slightly away from home(bit tighter),but home games i would go
gk - Bav
lb - jacobson
rb - deano
cb- long
cb - edwards

holding mids -joyce and procci

attacking mids - ryan, barnett and razor if fit(which to me hes not) or parky

Striker - gornell

Iwould give the attacking mids licence to attack as proccy and joyce are two of the fittest in the club,so its insurance to plug any gaps.

Taking a chance with jacobson,but he looks a better defender than midfielder and deano gives you extra height when defending,plus he would get up and down all day,with again havin joyce to sit in.

Think Gornell is our best striker,although I like Boulding

Away from home i would go two banks of four,one up front and one in the hole,make it tight and difficult to beat

cashman · 13-12-2010, 22:23

that don't look a bad eleven to me, not convinced about 1 lone striker though, oer the years i have watched footy, i go wi the best strikers hunt in twos.