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[cashman]

Originally Posted by smudgie

They have come from Rovers, says alot really.

well if yeh know who they are,do summat about it.

[mab]

Unfortunately as stanley evolve and become more n more a better alternative to local sides,we'l attract a small and unwelcome following whos hell bent on misbehaving at football matchs,we're not the only football club to suffer from mindless idiots

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by cashman

well if yeh know who they are,do summat about it.

As Cashy says, if you know who they are can't you get a couple of "Big Lads" to have a gentle word with them & point out to them the errors of their ways ? And that unless change happens consequences other than a talking to will follow, used to work quite well for us.

[Stephen666]

Yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwn

[shillelagh]

if you know them then have a word ... told the spugster about this thread .. and he was saying if theres smoke bombs going off and idiots mucking about then im not right sure i want to go to the matches when im down .. and he was looking forward to it .... and timed his visit accordingly to get the first home match of the season ....

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Stephen666

Yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwn

Really thought provoking & a valuable contribution to the subject, man aren't you a class act ?

[Stephen666]

valuable contribution

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

If you know who they are can't you get a couple of "Big Lads" to have a gentle word with them & point out to them the errors of their ways ? And that unless change happens consequences other than a talking to will follow, used to work quite well for us.

I'm a big lad, Ultras be warned, following my gentle words I'll will be kicking the sh*t out of you all.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Stephen666

valuable contribution




I'm a big lad, Ultras be warned, following my gentle words I'll will be kicking the sh*t out of you all.

Oh dear & an aggressive one too it seems.

[Stephen666]

Dave, what are your personal thoughts about what you saw at Barrow on Saturday?
Relating to what you saw at Barrow, what are your personal thoughts on what you see at all the home fixtures and away fixtures?

[ukcowboy]

Originally Posted by Stephen666

Yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwn

Not exactly a considered and adult reply.

Granted, Dave in Germanys reply was rather old school, but it was ended with a smiley, therefore written tounge in cheek I should imagine.

I am, by virtue of your reply, assuming that you don't feel the same as the majority of posters on this thread, in so much that anti social behaviour on the terrace is neither warranted nor wanted?

Pity really, as our fans have a superb reputation built up over a long period of time......it will take these idiots nowhere near as long to ruin what Jase and the original Ultras worked so hard to achieve. But hey, there only having a bit of a laugh so what's the harm?

Time for a few numpties to grow up or ship out imho.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Stephen666

Dave, what are your personal thoughts about what you saw at Barrow on Saturday?
Relating to what you saw at Barrow, what are your personal thoughts on what you see at all the home fixtures and away fixtures?

Can't help you there I'm afraid, I can only get to matches when I get across, but when I do attend I see a lot of enthusiastic supporters singing & shouting & thoroughly enjoying themselves with no animosity.

That said though, at the Wycombe game last season I saw some young idiots, winding up away supports as they were leaving the ground thereby turning an incident free event into a chance for further escalation & probably dragging the good reputation of the Stanley fans through all kinds of ikky stuff, simply because of a few imbeciles.

Once a club gains a reputation for trouble it is near on impossible to change that perception from other football fans home & abroad. I'll give you an example Liverpool vs Juventus Heysel 85, things happened English Clubs got banned, travelling round Europe taking in some games as soon as you mentioned being English (and from Liverpool) dark looks & a total change in attitudes. That is why any inkling of trouble needs stamping down hard irrespective of whose responsible or their popularity.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by ukcowboy

Granted, Dave in Germanys reply was rather old school, but it was ended with a smiley, therefore written tounge in cheek I should imagine.

Old school ? I'm practically Victorian in my outlooks.

(still, as with most things there's a grain of truth as the core)

[Stephen666]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Can't help you there I'm afraid, I can only get to matches when I get across, but when I do attend I see a lot of enthusiastic supporters singing & shouting & thoroughly enjoying themselves with no animosity.

That said though, at the Wycombe game last season I saw some young idiots, winding up away supports as they were leaving the ground thereby turning an incident free event into a chance for further escalation & probably dragging the good reputation of the Stanley fans through all kinds of ikky stuff, simply because of a few imbeciles.

Once a club gains a reputation for trouble it is near on impossible to change that perception from other football fans home & abroad. I'll give you an example Liverpool vs Juventus Heysel 85, things happened English Clubs got banned, travelling round Europe taking in some games as soon as you mentioned being English (and from Liverpool) dark looks & a total change in attitudes. That is why any inkling of trouble needs stamping down hard irrespective of whose responsible or their popularity.

Questions asked:

What are your personal thoughts about what you saw at Barrow on Saturday?

Relating to what you saw at Barrow, what are your personal thoughts on what you see at all the home fixtures and away fixtures?

Answers given:

None, and can't help you there I'm afraid

It's quite clear you wasn't there are on Saturday and very rarely attend home or away.

How can you be in a position to comment?...... You can't.
Obviously you live in Germany so my questions were aimed to trip you up.

A minor incident occurred that was dealt with by the stewards and the Police......... End of discussion. A smoke bomb being released at barrow is hardly compareable to what happened at Heysel in 1985.

but when I do attend I see a lot of enthusiastic supporters singing & shouting & thoroughly enjoying themselves with no animosity.

Let me assure you Dave, this represents a high percentage of all Stanley matches.........My personal thoughts on the number of stanley matches I attend each year including pre season friendlies.......A high percentage.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Stephen666

It's quite clear you wasn't there are on Saturday and very rarely attend home or away.

True & I stated as much. (nothing deceptive in that)

How can you be in a position to comment?...... You can't.
Obviously you live in Germany so my questions were aimed to trip you up.

Actually I can comment & I did so through this particular medium (an open forum) lets face it if you can't attend an event you can still find out what happened modern forms of information passage are quite varied & readily available.

A minor incident occurred that was dealt with by the stewards and the Police......... End of discussion. A smoke bomb being released at barrow is hardly compareable to what happened at Heysel in 1985.

No maybe not, the wrong sort of comparison, but the damage caused by such incidents have far reaching effects & the thing of it is it isn't the first time such an incident of blatant idiocy has occurred is it ?

Let me assure you Dave, this represents a high percentage of all Stanley matches.........My personal thoughts on the number of stanley matches I attend each year including pre season friendlies.......A high percentage.

As to your attendance record, I don't doubt it so you of all people should understand the necessity of getting a grip of the Idiots surely ?

Right lets hope the above satisfies & answers your queries.

[Revived Red]

Originally Posted by smudgie

They have come from Rovers, says alot really.

The same ones who started the problems at Cheltenham??