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18-04-2010, 09:09
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Re: Bigger crowd
The other thing I would like to see and there are signs it will happen is the Lounge given back over to fans and if the new stand happens moving the hospitality that way.
It would see with a few simple tweaks I am sure a lot more matchday revenue generated for the Club particulary before the game, where most people don't tend to arrive at the ground till 10-15 minutes before the game.
I would like to see home made food being offered in the Lounge to fans to have along with their pint, I have seen it at loads of away grounds and it generates income.
A really positive Marketed Approach towards Season Ticket's outside the Hynburn area wouldn't go amiss either, Lancashire Telegraph, local radio, seeing the Club out & about during the Summer spreading the word at fetes, galas, Agricultural Shows in the Lancashire area all usually cheap to have a small stall with literature and people on hand to help spread the word in the flesh.
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18-04-2010, 10:30
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Re: Bigger crowd
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Dunno, Val, always find it difficult to guesstimate crowd figures. Thought the gate numbers were recorded on some sort of electronic counting system? Come on, mate, help me out, I'm trying to get some sort of positive vibe going here!
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have already told ya what the score is- they are now telling the truth about attendence figures.
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18-04-2010, 10:47
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Re: Bigger crowd
I for 1 isn't happy about it! I work saturday's if quiet enough i can sneak off to the match, mostly can attend and head straight off to match - that would mean having to pay 2 quid more, would also kill off on spur walk ons. Certainly with the quality of recent games, floaters will go to pub instead for big screen's. I cant afford the season ticket no matter how good value it is, and im quite prepared to pay on gate which is gonna be a right mess around to try to get on for normal price a right inconvenience to workers on a sat am and price us out.
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18-04-2010, 11:04
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Re: Bigger crowd
so is new price now £15
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18-04-2010, 12:24
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Re: Bigger crowd
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so is new price now £15
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Booked in Advance Terrace=£13 on gate £15
Booled in Advance Seating=£15 on gate £17
Booked in advance from my understanding can be done via internet, by Phone or by person before the day of the game.
I suppose we also have to take into account revenue will increase with this from away fans, unless they are given the same option of booking online or via phone?
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18-04-2010, 12:28
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Re: Bigger crowd
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Booked in Advance Terrace=£13 on gate £15
Booled in Advance Seating=£15 on gate £17
I suppose we also have to take into account revenue will increase with this from away fans, unless they are given the same option of booking online?
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The away end shouldn't be available on the ground plan when you book tickets online
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18-04-2010, 13:05
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Re: Bigger crowd
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The away end shouldn't be available on the ground plan when you book tickets online
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That's fair enough not many Grounds offer up reduced ticket prices for away fans
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18-04-2010, 15:15
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Re: Bigger crowd
I think this season has seen n increase in home crowds? i'm sure someone will shoot that down if not the case. personally if so, i would suggest that the much better to watch football has been the prime reason. shame reverted back to hoofing of late. that says to me theres summat to build on close season, if n its a "BIG IF" lessons have been learnt. i think if the management do, next season "Can" produce n average of around the 2000 mark, in conjunction with that, it needs the "Gods" to be much more pro-active in building bridges with the general public, if these things happen, then me season ticket will be money very well spent. "Heres Hoping"
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18-04-2010, 16:21
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Re: Bigger crowd
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I think this season has seen n increase in home crowds? i'm sure someone will shoot that down if not the case. personally if so, i would suggest that the much better to watch football has been the prime reason. shame reverted back to hoofing of late. that says to me theres summat to build on close season, if n its a "BIG IF" lessons have been learnt. i think if the management do, next season "Can" produce n average of around the 2000 mark, in conjunction with that, it needs the "Gods" to be much more pro-active in building bridges with the general public, if these things happen, then me season ticket will be money very well spent. "Heres Hoping"
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Last time I counted Cashy, we averaged just over 2000, which is an improvement of around 600, but, we have had the Friday games, in conjunction with all the S.O.S. fans, plus F.A.Cup Etc. So in truth it is hard to say, but the one thing that anybody with an ounce of football understanding must agree with is, that the football - barring the last few games - has been of a much better standard! So here's to next season
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18-04-2010, 23:25
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Re: Bigger crowd
If it is true that matchday prices are going up then I think this is a stupid idea. The whole idea of increasing gates is to encourage new fans to come on, how is that going to be possible by increasing the price? Plus the fact most walk ons will decide on a whim to come on a game rather than buy a ticket the day before, people have more important things to do than pre-order tickets. I think if this policy is followed through I would expect gates to drop and therefore revenue will decrease. The club need to entice potential supporters with probably cheaper prices, perhaps having a family ticket for £20 would help increase gates or keeping the current prices but including a free pie so that then they are likely to use the lounge and possibly buy a few drinks which would help increase the coffers. One final thing to bare in mind is that when you compare season ticket price to matchday prices for the season you normally get between 4 and 6 free games by having a season ticket. However the difference between these for Accy is around 11 free games, the gap between these should be narrowed by having matchday standing at £10 for adults and then the gap would be only 7 free games.
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19-04-2010, 00:01
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Re: Bigger crowd
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One final thing to bare in mind is that when you compare season ticket price to matchday prices for the season you normally get between 4 and 6 free games by having a season ticket. However the difference between these for Accy is around 11 free games, the gap between these should be narrowed by having matchday standing at £10 for adults and then the gap would be only 7 free games.
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100% agree. The hardcore is guaranteed - the walk ons aren't. Silly idea if you ask me but I suppose we'll just have to see next year. What we don't have access to is the full data of how many come in through each gate and this will be factored into the workings out. Away numbers will never be affected by gate prices and if there are 20,000 away fans a year paying the extra £2 it means we can in theory afford to lose 57 fans per game to breakeven. That's not enough! But then again we don't do the sums.
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19-04-2010, 20:03
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Re: Bigger crowd
I'd have to agree that, personal opinion, I think that putting up walk on prices up by as much as £2 is steep.
In my opinion it will deter floating support. Let's remember not everyone has the internet, the phone reservation mullarkey will probably put folk off and as for picking them up / paying for them in advance would certainly put off others. Personally speaking I'd have like to have seen one of the following initiatives deployed:
1) Whilst the early bird prices are appealing, I ( for one)cant afford to stump up that sort of cash in one hit. Other clubs offer an option to pay in installments, so for example buying a season ticket (seated)after the 4th of May; and by paying in four installments (May-August, with the final installment due before the first home game) that softens the blow. £57.50 is a lot more affordable in four installments and the cost a lot easier to digest financially than £230 in one hit.
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2) It would be an idea to offer a half season ticket with a slight reduction. I'd assume the club could do the maths on an acceptable figure / price for that, but lets say 13 games for £130 (seated). Not everyone can get to every game ( I for example can't do the Majority of midweek games due to work commitments) but an open "flexi ticket" (i.e. the tickets can be used at any of the 23 league games) may appeal to folk.
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3) If a season ticket from one of our neighbours is produced at the turnstile (or to police this better, produce it at the ticket office ) Like Bury have tried once this season,offer a reduction to these folk. Not a substantial one, but say £2 off the pay on the day price. After all they've already paid for their own season ticket.
The club has tried to their credit to entice more folk in (i.e. the family bundle, letting all under 12's in free, membership scheme etc, etc) but I think it would be prudent to maximise every opportunity. My apologies to the hierarchy, if somebody has already thought these ideas through, maybe they might think that these ideas are not financially viable.
By all means offer this walk on incentive to visiting fans, maybe it would entice a few additional visiting supporters to follow their team at the crown, but we all know that the facilities aren't the best and charging £17 to sit and £15 to stand paying on the day doesn't add up to me.
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19-04-2010, 20:18
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Re: Bigger crowd
I would have been even more radical.....
Club works out a figure they need for a £10 admission, say minimum every week 2200 fans.... It openly appeals to the town to maintain this figure & the fee stays at £10....
If it doesn't, the club can just amend the prices accordingly. If it does then we have a few more punters. Going one step further the club can have rally days with a figure set & the next game is £8.....
Nothing to lose, slightly complicated but do-able & unique
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19-04-2010, 20:59
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Re: Bigger crowd
Just as an afterthought......
To expand on the half season ticket idea I mentioned earlier.....
Use the 13 tickets before a certain date and have a top up book of an additional 5 games for around £50 quid when you produce the empty half season ticket ???
Rovers have their 3-ticket bundles for certain games, why not elaborate on that idea??? Admittedly the Premier League cash they get helps them offer such packages, but thats what we as a club are up against.
It's thinking outside the box that we need to up the number of fans. Encouraging more folk to stump up cash up front is always going to be difficult, but I don't see how upping walk on prices will work.
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19-04-2010, 21:03
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Re: Bigger crowd
Jase,
I agree.
Similar to Bradford and Huddersfield who had minimum season ticket sales to get the price down to £100.
Im sorry, but the club needs to wake up to reality.
£17 for league 2 or £20 to walk into rovers and watch category B and C premiership games.
To 99% of people, local club or not, there is no comparison.
Until admission is a standard £10 and people on the street know its £10 and always £10, then you wil not encourage floaters.
Its fine to bump it up to £20 when Fulham come to town, but league 2 football for more than £10 is expensive.
I cant help but suspect the price hike is to benefit from away fans, although they are forgetting the nostalgia of coming to Accrington Stanley for most of the teams in the league has now worn out. I expect away attendances to drop of next year.
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