Bigger crowd

[DAV007]

If the system does more than just ticketing then I can see an advantage. But for ticketing its a waste of time. How many floaters will plan ahead and be wanting to watch league 2 football? I predict a handful if any.

£17 accy vs stevenage or £20 blackburn vs villa

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of paying for a ticketing system, the club has got to win on price if it wants to go forward.
At the announced prices I cant help believe it is another missed opportunity.


Wynonie - bit of a grudge growing? We are all waiting for the fans forum; in the mean time Iylas has been kind enough to come on here and answer questions.
I guess you have some sort of connection to the Oneill & Heys double act?

[ukcowboy]

Originally Posted by DAV007

If the system does more than just ticketing then I can see an advantage. But for ticketing its a waste of time. How many floaters will plan ahead and be wanting to watch league 2 football? I predict a handful if any.

£17 accy vs stevenage or £20 blackburn vs villa

Regardless of the rights and wrongs of paying for a ticketing system, the club has got to win on price if it wants to go forward.
At the announced prices I cant help believe it is another missed opportunity.


Wynonie - bit of a grudge growing? We are all waiting for the fans forum; in the mean time Iylas has been kind enough to come on here and answer questions.
I guess you have some sort of connection to the Oneill & Heys double act?

Oh dear Dav007................you dont really know our wynonie do you?
Be prepared to be lambasted

[sparkie]

Yep Duck and cover Dav!!!!

[DAV007]

cowboy I dont.
But the guy seems to have some sort of grudge because I dare question the club? If i was criticising for the sake of it then I deserve both barrels but I have explained why and provided a better option.
It is not to late to change the ticketing policy and pricing for next year!

[Stanleymad]

You dont know wyn do ya, if ya did u would know he's not in co hoots with anybody. Blimey whats up with stanley section today - missing tuesday nite matches as cleared up that matter can we get back to topic please
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[Pendle Red]

It's a "Chicken & Egg" syndrome and I can see both sides of the argument

The plus points of the database appear to be:
Datbase for the Club which I don't think exsisits outside season ticket holders
Direct info to your inbox?
Booking tickets in advance?
Shopping Facility linked to the Club Shop from the software
Marketing can be specifically targetted with offers
Ticketing Bundles can be perhaps offered in groups of three game, five games etc.

Disadvantages
Small Fan Base
Limited Numbers to target
Initial Outlay
Not everyone has web access or can be bothered
Walk on's may be put off by the price increase unless booking before hand

Both the advantages & disadvantages can probably be tackled from with the system which will be quicker, more effective and less labour intensive than without the system which may give the Club more time to be out & about in the Community spreading the word.

If it proves to pay for itself and brings in more punters and helps the Club become more proactive then I am Happy

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by DAV007

Wynonie - bit of a grudge growing? We are all waiting for the fans forum; in the mean time Iylas has been kind enough to come on here and answer questions.
I guess you have some sort of connection to the Oneill & Heys double act?

Ha, ha, ha, brilliant, Davo! Who do you think I am, the shadowy enforcer behind "the firm"?

All I've done is repeated what you said. YOU were the one who said you'd given your season ticket away to some kid and you "hoped he enjoyed the last 3 home games". YOU were the one who said you weren't going to home matches, only away ones because it was "the perfect solution". Is bringing up the truth a little inconvenient for you?

Have you not understood what Ilyas is saying? He says he wants us to support the club and the management that's in place at the moment (whatever our personal feelings may be about them). The LAST thing he wants is the sort of boycott you're proposing, and if you don't believe me, just ask him.

I'm turning up and supporting the lads on the Clayton End, you're not. Who do you think Ilyas would say was doing the right thing?

[DAV007]

I did give away my season ticket because i cant make the last few games. The kid was over the moon. I clearly stated i was 100% behind Iylas but still had legitimate questions which is why the fan forum must happen.
One indirect question regarding bigger crowds, are the club renting out the burger 'dog food' van space in the clayton end or will they be running it themselves?

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by DAV007

I did give away my season ticket because i cant make the last few games. The kid was over the moon. I clearly stated i was 100% behind Iylas but still had legitimate questions which is why the fan forum must happen.

No good muddying the waters now, Davo. You're the one who said that you wouldn't be going to any more home matches because you didn't want to give the club any more of your money. How can you possibly say that you're 100% behind Ilyas when you won't even turn up at the Crown?

[VALAIRIAN]

Originally Posted by DAV007

I did give away my season ticket because i cant make the last few games. The kid was over the moon. I clearly stated i was 100% behind Iylas but still had legitimate questions which is why the fan forum must happen.
One indirect question regarding bigger crowds, are the club renting out the burger 'dog food' van space in the clayton end or will they be running it themselves?

As far a I know, somebody rents the space!!

[Pendle Red]

That is one area could be explored to see if it is viable and if it could be done in house so to speak, most grounds I have been to it is heated food rollover hot dogs, pies, sausage rolls out of warmers, geyser with Hot Water for your coffee, tea, Bovril, that it is out of pre-packed cups, Bottled Water, fizzy drinks, crisps, chocolate & sweets money straight into the Clubs coffers.

My particular favourite has to be Scouse Pie or Premium Pie as it is called £2.90 at Anfield made by none other than our own Clayton Park Bakery.

[VALAIRIAN]

Originally Posted by Pendle Red

That is one area could be explored to see if it is viable and if it could be done in house so to speak, most grounds I have been to it is heated food rollover hot dogs, pies, sausage rolls out of warmers, geyser with Hot Water for your coffee, tea, Bovril, that it is out of pre-packed cups, Bottled Water, fizzy drinks, crisps, chocolate & sweets money straight into the Clubs coffers.

My particular favourite has to be Scouse Pie or Premium Pie as it is called £2.90 at Anfield made by none other than our own Clayton Park Bakery.

With the amount of Scousers we have, I would have thought they would be on sale at The Crown!!!!

[Mr T]

Originally Posted by DAV007

I did give away my season ticket because i cant make the last few games. The kid was over the moon. I clearly stated i was 100% behind Iylas but still had legitimate questions which is why the fan forum must happen.
One indirect question regarding bigger crowds, are the club renting out the burger 'dog food' van space in the clayton end or will they be running it themselves?

Today the club do frainshise out the ground catering. It takes away the uncertainty and the "hassle"

IMHO no change, tell the club if you think this is wrong

[carpon]

This electronic ticket system / caper is in my opinion, a massive own goal. All well and good taking the club forwards by introducing the facility, but my opinion alone, it will have detrimental consequences.

As said by many others, I can't see how making it even dearer to attend on the day will take the club forward. Look either way down the M65, better football on offer with better facilities at much the same price.

I think the added cost for walk on prices is massively influenced by paying for this system and in all honesty I can't see why we need it. It's not like it would be needed every week, would only be worth it's while for a couple of games a season, ala games like Bury, Bradford & Rochdale or a big cup game (bearing in mind Rochdale won't be here next year and Bury might not be if they go up in the play-offs.) If we were to spend money improving anything it would be better spent improving facilities.

How does making it even dearer and inconveniencing folk by making them to have to think about getting tickets in advance, in order to get football at the price they pay at the moment, to use poor facilities, attract more folk onto the ground???

I can see it putting folk off, having a negative impact on attendances and in turn exasperating the problem. Lower attendances meaning less income, lower budget, etc, etc, etc.

Seriously, have the powers that be thought this one through ???

[Chimer]

Originally Posted by carpon

I think the added cost for walk on prices is massively influenced by paying for this system

If Carpon's thought is correct, the increase would be a bad move. Increased prices and consequently potentially reduced attendance are unlikely to pay for anything. On th other hand, if the increase is to bring us in line with other League 2 pricing - and I've not paid less anywhere else in L2 as a day tripper - has anybody ? - then that's a commercial judgement.

Rovers' prices, hugely subsidised by their Premier League membership and consequent income, would be irrelevant if they were more than 5 miles down the road. Unfortunately they're not - but we can't take them into account when doing our own pricing. (Sorry Lancs Dave - I would have included your lot but unfortunately ...)

£10 walk-on would be lovely for me, given I turn up very occasionally. But it won't provide the financial support a League 2 operation needs. I'll happily pay £13 or £15 - a sociable half gallon of bitter (N.B. not lager, or milk) in the Crown or Oaklea after the game and I've saved the difference, given effete southern beer prices (need to drink a lot to cover the petrol too, though).

Actually as an exile I shouldn't enter into this debate as the cost of admission is insignificant as a percentage of the cost to me of watching a game at the Crown - so why the hell am I typing this just after midnight?