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Old 18-02-2011, 22:21   #166
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Re: Brace yourselves in again please ....

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I run my own business and I can tell you exactly what I owe, to whom and when it's due, come on Stanley give your customers some facts
...... And I suppose you tell all your customers this level of information eg how much profit you are taking from them etc etc? ;-)
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Old 18-02-2011, 22:32   #167
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is this a gay thing
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Old 18-02-2011, 22:36   #168
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This threads getting interesting
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Old 18-02-2011, 22:40   #169
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is this a gay thing
Give us a kiss n i'll tell yeh.
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Old 19-02-2011, 10:42   #170
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I don't want to stir up the hornet's nest, but if we weren't passionate about our Club, there wouldn't be this amount of emotion displayed in this thread ... and I don't mean last night's gay exchanges

People were invited to a meeting with Peter Shaw as representatives of different sections of the Club's fanbase and so have a responsibility to report back to them.

So far, we have "the end of this month we'll owe that taxman around 100k", "we have nowt coming in", and "the difference between incomings and outgoings is massive and we won't pull it around".

The meeting lasted an hour from what has been said on here, so beyond the 10 seconds that it takes to say the above, what else is there to report?

My specific questions to our representatives at the meeting:
  • Has the £250,000 PL parachute payment already been received in full and spent?
  • If £100,000 will be owed to HMRC by the end of this month, are there other significant debts also owed that are likely to lead to court action in the short term?
  • Have the players' wages been paid in full and on-time?
  • Is the course of action being asked of fans (other than to support the 'Back the Boys' campaign) to wait for the decisions of the Board meeting today or to be prepared for another SOS Appeal.
  • Were there any other courses of action available to the fans?

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Old 19-02-2011, 10:47   #171
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questions ok, what about the answers?
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Old 19-02-2011, 10:55   #172
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I don't want to stir up the hornet's nest, but if we weren't passionate about our Club, there wouldn't be this amount of emotion displayed in this thread ... and I don't mean last night's gay exchanges

People were invited to a meeting with Peter Shaw as representatives of different sections of the Club's fanbase and so have a responsibility to report back to them.

So far, we have "the end of this month we'll owe that taxman around 100k", "we have nowt coming in", and "the difference between incomings and outgoings is massive and we won't pull it around".

The meeting lasted an hour from what has been said on here, so beyond the 10 seconds that it takes to say the above, what else is there to report?

My specific questions to our representatives at the meeting:
  • Has the £250,000 PL parachute payment already been received in full and spent?
  • If £100,000 will be owed to HMRC by the end of this month, are there other significant debts also owed that are likely to lead to court action in the short term?
  • Have the players' wages been paid in full and on-time?
  • Is the course of action being asked of fans (other than to support the 'Back the Boys' campaign) to wait for the decisions of the Board meeting today or to be prepared for another SOS Appeal.
  • Were there any other courses of action available to the fans?
Disclaimer, the answers given are not 100% fact as I have no proof but can tell you what I'm aware of. Before anybody wonders why I was there, I wasn't invited, I was on chauffeur duty so I gatecrashed as there was no security on the door

1. I got the impression the parachute payments are paid monthly, don't know when they started or when they finish.

2. A figure of 40k was banded about, no mention of wehter that would end in court action

3. Yes and No.

4. Wait. To be honest another SOS appeal would bring in very little, I can tell you from being a supporter of another club you will get very little sympathy again as you did first time round.

5. See 4
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Old 19-02-2011, 11:15   #173
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Re: Brace yourselves in again please ....

So far, we have "the end of this month we'll owe that taxman around 100k", "we have nowt coming in", and "the difference between incomings and outgoings is massive and we won't pull it around".

The meeting lasted an hour from what has been said on here, so beyond the 10 seconds that it takes to say the above, what else is there to report?

hmmmmmm didnt i more or less say same yesterday???

funny how yesterday it turned some OPs into more or less telling me to shut up and see post 1 but this morning there is a answer although its the OP view (he doesnt claim its fact)but at least its helpful,
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Old 19-02-2011, 11:24   #174
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So far, we have "the end of this month we'll owe that taxman around 100k", "we have nowt coming in", and "the difference between incomings and outgoings is massive and we won't pull it around".

The meeting lasted an hour from what has been said on here, so beyond the 10 seconds that it takes to say the above, what else is there to report?

hmmmmmm didnt i more or less say same yesterday???

funny how yesterday it turned some OPs into more or less telling me to shut up and see post 1 but this morning there is a answer although its the OP view (he doesnt claim its fact)but at least its helpful,

Not sure I put anything in my answers that wasn't in post 1 sort of ish, just put a disclaimer and specific to the questions.
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Old 19-02-2011, 11:47   #175
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Geeee shoot the messengers katei!!! We're doing our best, tho when told of debts we didn't need an itinerary of who's owed and what, about 40 grand is about 40 grand of bills that's not being paid, worryingly some small businesses are effected in that but it's not privy of us to ask, fact of the case is 40 grand is owed excluding tax man and that's all we need to know at this stage, some of that money was un necessary and the need of good management at top is a necessity in order to control outgoings. The accounts won't be filed in time as accountancy is in that amount again no figure to compute but example of required outgoings as example to what kind of bills we have.

Does that spell it out more ???
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Old 19-02-2011, 12:21   #176
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well lets hope for two very good crowds for the next two games
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Old 19-02-2011, 12:29   #177
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Geeee shoot the messengers katei!!! We're doing our best, tho when told of debts we didn't need an itinerary of who's owed and what, about 40 grand is about 40 grand of bills that's not being paid, worryingly some small businesses are effected in that but it's not privy of us to ask, fact of the case is 40 grand is owed excluding tax man and that's all we need to know at this stage, some of that money was un necessary and the need of good management at top is a necessity in order to control outgoings. The accounts won't be filed in time as accountancy is in that amount again no figure to compute but example of required outgoings as example to what kind of bills we have.

Does that spell it out more ???
I wasnt having ago but this could of be posted yesterday when i asked all we were told in post 1 was we will owe the taxman bout 100k nothing about another 40k owed on top of that .....can you see where im coming from?
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Old 19-02-2011, 12:31   #178
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well lets hope for two very good crowds for the next two games

And some dry weather
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Old 19-02-2011, 12:41   #179
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hmmmm weather dont look great
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Old 19-02-2011, 12:44   #180
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I wasnt having ago but this could of be posted yesterday when i asked all we were told in post 1 was we will owe the taxman bout 100k nothing about another 40k owed on top of that .....can you see where im coming from?
People have already said tho thats what macca was on about post 1 the outgoings are massive to the incomings, ive just purposely spelled it out bluntly
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