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01-04-2010, 18:29
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Re: Cav signs
I'll echo the good luck sentiments to Cav and surely even those who believe he was guilty as charged can concurr that he's served his ban and is entitled to a second chance to pick up his playing career again.
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01-04-2010, 18:41
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Re: Cav signs
I too wish Cav luck with his future, By the rules he was guilty and served his time. Morally he was innocent, and is forgiven by me.
The others will get no good wishes off me, because they are greedy bastards who not only let the fans down, but the club, the town, the county, the country, Europe.................
Because the Scumbags bet in such large amounts, it would be too easy to influence the result.
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01-04-2010, 19:03
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Re: Cav signs
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Originally Posted by AccyMad
I'll echo the good luck sentiments to Cav and surely even those who believe he was guilty as charged can concurr that he's served his ban and is entitled to a second chance to pick up his playing career again.
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so long as its NOT at Stanley. to be perfectly honest, this thread is reason i renewed my season ticket. if he was coming back am sorry to say i would not have.
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01-04-2010, 19:09
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Re: Cav signs
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so long as its NOT at Stanley. to be perfectly honest, this thread is reason i renewed my season ticket. if he was coming back am sorry to say i would not have.
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Exactly - I could understand some people might not want Cav back at Stanley, but can't understand anyone begrudging him starting again somewhere else - still, there's now as queer as folk
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01-04-2010, 19:14
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Re: Cav signs
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I too wish Cav luck with his future, By the rules he was guilty and served his time. Morally he was innocent, and is forgiven by me.
The others will get no good wishes off me, because they are greedy bastards who not only let the fans down, but the club, the town, the county, the country, Europe.................
Because the Scumbags bet in such large amounts, it would be too easy to influence the result.
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redash cannot agree more very sad ref cav,a legend and not rocky,mannix, mangan, who seriously were self making in their decision to bet against OUR club. never knew until today that Cav actually bet for us! based on that a career as a pro gambler is not going to prove too fruitful!
good luck with the cods cav
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01-04-2010, 19:16
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Re: Cav signs
Don't wish him any harm elsewhere, but i cannot understand why some would wish him back, do they not understand if ya break rules, get caught, ya pay the price?
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01-04-2010, 19:41
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Re: Cav signs
The Chapter is closed and needs to remain so
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01-04-2010, 21:05
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Re: Cav signs
whats done is done, it can't be changed, the past is the past is the past.I know there is sentiment from some people but what good will it do keep going on about it, just get behind the current set of players we have now in our most successful season we have had since our return to the football league.
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01-04-2010, 22:28
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Re: Cav signs
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whats done is done, it can't be changed, the past is the past is the past.I know there is sentiment from some people but what good will it do keep going on about it, just get behind the current set of players we have now in our most successful season we have had since our return to the football league.
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Well said Rob.
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01-04-2010, 22:51
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Re: Cav signs
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whats done is done, it can't be changed, the past is the past is the past.I know there is sentiment from some people but what good will it do keep going on about it, just get behind the current set of players we have now in our most successful season we have had since our return to the football league.
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totally agree rob and let's face it we have the best squad ever so let's move forward and despite what has happened we will move forward to the play offs next year or should i have another glass of wine!!!!!!!!! on stanley on
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02-04-2010, 09:08
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Re: Cav signs
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The Chapter is closed and needs to remain so
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Originally Posted by Rob249
whats done is done, it can't be changed, the past is the past is the past.I know there is sentiment from some people but what good will it do keep going on about it, just get behind the current set of players we have now in our most successful season we have had since our return to the football league.
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Think these two posts sum it up!
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02-04-2010, 09:39
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Re: Cav signs
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Originally Posted by Redash
I too wish Cav luck with his future, By the rules he was guilty and served his time. Morally he was innocent, and is forgiven by me.
The others will get no good wishes off me, because they are greedy bastards who not only let the fans down, but the club, the town, the county, the country, Europe.................
Because the Scumbags bet in such large amounts, it would be too easy to influence the result.
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Nice one pal, i agree top to bottom
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02-04-2010, 09:54
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Cav signs
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Originally Posted by Redash
I too wish Cav luck with his future, By the rules he was guilty and served his time. Morally he was innocent, and is forgiven by me.
The others will get no good wishes off me, because they are greedy bastards who not only let the fans down, but the club, the town, the county, the country, Europe.................
Because the Scumbags bet in such large amounts, it would be too easy to influence the result.
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Originally Posted by Willie Miller
Nice one pal, i agree top to bottom
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please explain how morally he was innocent? he was Captain of the club, breaking the rules is a great example to set young kids, whats "Moral" about that?
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02-04-2010, 10:44
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Re: Cav signs
The football league rules were indeed broken, Cav was rightly punished.
The accumulator that Cav had was the bookies version of the pools, the stake & winnings would not make it worthwhile influencing any games. The rules were introduced to stop big money bets and match-fixing. The Football League banned players gambling on their own league or matches that they are involved in, All bets from 1p upwards.
Cav was a working man, like many of us, he likes a flutter, like many of us, he bet a fiver, he could have won a couple of hundred if all his matches had the right result, he probably did it every week, he most probably did it as a side, from the horses whilst waiting for a result to come in.
The amounts Cav was involved in would not have been worthwhile trying to fix any matches, and would not have raised any eyebrows with the authorities, that is, until the greedy ones got caught. If Cav did have the ability to influence the result, we would have won more games.
Cav broke the "rules" but he didn't bet on us to lose. Playing in a match, when you have big money riding on getting beaten, opens up many avenues of corruption and should be punished with prison and a lifetime ban from sport.
Betting on your own team to win, although against the rules, is morally right. Also if you bet big money on your team to win, would this not give more motivation to play better.
I stand with Ray on the Clayton end, every game he puts £2 or £3 on Stanley to win 2-1. Some he wins, some he loses, I think he is in profit this season for the first time in years. I regard Cav and Ray as the same in the gambling stakes, hence Cav is forgiven, and Williams, Harris and Mannix will never be forgiven.
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02-04-2010, 10:47
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Cav signs
understand what yer saying mike, still don't make him morally innocent.IMHO.
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