Chester City FC wound up

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by Willie Miller

Clubs also chased the "corporates" far too much, which inevitably in recession hits turnover badly!

Love Stanley, Hate Modern Football

PS Meanwhile, a certain team who are climbing high in League 2 pay a goalkeeper £1 million pounds a year..... Why aren't the FA asking any questions there........ Madness, & yes its the FA's & Premier League's fault. Once Sky lose interest what happens then?

Was discussing this with Mr T the other night. Seems the capped wage rule only exists on paper. How can a club on the verge of administration a few weeks ago have a revenue which allows grossly high wages to be paid ?

[Willie Miller]

The FA should generate some sort of limit for all clubs based on income last season & historically, crowds, TV money etc etc. The PFA pay all players & the clubs can only spend an agreed total. No sugar daddies, live entirley within your means, dictated by an independant from outside the club

Easy, then we stop talking football "business" which is boring & start talking about football.

[VALAIRIAN]

Sad day for Chester, but as has been said, they will start up again - Welsh League I have heard - and are rid of the *****.

As for money in football and stuff, it started - and will end - with the Premier League and greedy ****** like the ones who now ironically would like to go back to green and yellow!!! Be careful what you wish for.

With Willie all the way on this one, keep it real!!!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Willie Miller

Once Sky lose interest what happens then?

It is not an impossibility for Sky to go bump.

If they did would they take the whole Football League with them?

[maccawozzagod]

football needs shaking up right the way through

1. an enforced wage cap based on last seasons turnover. Notts County would only have been able to pay Schmeichel a million a year if they had that in the bank from last season. No problem.

2. ensure that any new owners have bought the club outright and not used 'finance'. We saw with the Don fiasco that our new owner (who was but wasn't or is but isn't) didn't have a pot to pish in and couldn''t afford to pay the staff over summer. Consequently within minutes of him getting the keys we were asking the PFA to pay the players. If owner A wants a million for the club then new owner B must have the onions to pay it.

3. give ALL clubs a five year deadline to get in the black. Any club not in the black faces a relegation (or two if they finish in the relegation spots anyway). Man United would have to sell and not buy, and not pay astronomic wages for a season or two in order to service the ridiculous debts. The knock on throughout the leagues would be fairer competition and a dilution of the wealth. The only possible debt a club should have (IMHO) is an overdraft equivalent to two months wages just to ensure that it ticks over.

3. As Willie said, use the PFA to pay the players wages. Use the FA to pay all transfer fee's (instantly not staggered?) and tax bills. All gate receipts etc paid into a central pot and handed back as and when football bills are settled. Let the governing body administrate its member clubs. Any club that is struggling would be identified a lot sooner and sanctions or help could get underway long before the club gets into real difficulty.

that'll do for starters

[maccawozzagod]

Originally Posted by Neil

If they did would they take the whole Football League with them?

no, but the Premier League would probably implode leaving only clubs who haven't had to rely on their money. Burnely would be top of a league of one and would qualify for the Champions League

[Mr T]

Macca SUPERB!!

But in fairness, this time last year I + others thought DON was the future!! Guess garlic bread will have to do!!

[maccawozzagod]

The Don could have been the future if he hadnt made a dogs cock of the SOS and if he'd had a few quid to actually sustain the club whilst there was no income. His ideas and his overhaul of the clubs infrastructure are on the money. But unfortunately for him it was a terrible start.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

1. an enforced wage cap based on last seasons turnover. Notts County would only have been able to pay Schmeichel a million a year if they had that in the bank from last season. No problem.

That would mean teams doing well could spend more than teams not doing well. You need a level playing field with all clubs being capped at the same level

[Pendle Red]

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

football needs shaking up right the way through

1. an enforced wage cap based on last seasons turnover. Notts County would only have been able to pay Schmeichel a million a year if they had that in the bank from last season. No problem.

2. ensure that any new owners have bought the club outright and not used 'finance'. We saw with the Don fiasco that our new owner (who was but wasn't or is but isn't) didn't have a pot to pish in and couldn''t afford to pay the staff over summer. Consequently within minutes of him getting the keys we were asking the PFA to pay the players. If owner A wants a million for the club then new owner B must have the onions to pay it.

3. give ALL clubs a five year deadline to get in the black. Any club not in the black faces a relegation (or two if they finish in the relegation spots anyway). Man United would have to sell and not buy, and not pay astronomic wages for a season or two in order to service the ridiculous debts. The knock on throughout the leagues would be fairer competition and a dilution of the wealth. The only possible debt a club should have (IMHO) is an overdraft equivalent to two months wages just to ensure that it ticks over.

3. As Willie said, use the PFA to pay the players wages. Use the FA to pay all transfer fee's (instantly not staggered?) and tax bills. All gate receipts etc paid into a central pot and handed back as and when football bills are settled. Let the governing body administrate its member clubs. Any club that is struggling would be identified a lot sooner and sanctions or help could get underway long before the club gets into real difficulty.

that'll do for starters

Good Post Rob

But can't see the Elite of the PL coming anywhere near any of that

At the end of the day within the PL there is as daft as it a four league system with the top four, Europa League place, mid table and the mini league to stay in the Top flight.

The Championship, League One & even League Two are littered with teams that have tried to stay with the elite and then slid down the Leagues to start over again with huge debts.

I agree though that Football in general does need a massive overhaul but the Brand sells worldwide that is the "Premier League" and changes will be slow in coming but at least UEFA and particular Platini is taking a stand.

[Pendle Red]

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

The Don could have been the future if he hadnt made a dogs cock of the SOS and if he'd had a few quid to actually sustain the club whilst there was no income. His ideas and his overhaul of the clubs infrastructure are on the money. But unfortunately for him it was a terrible start.

I can't think of many that spring to mind, other than slicing the playing budget

[VALAIRIAN]

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

football needs shaking up right the way through

1. an enforced wage cap based on last seasons turnover. Notts County would only have been able to pay Schmeichel a million a year if they had that in the bank from last season. No problem.

2. ensure that any new owners have bought the club outright and not used 'finance'. We saw with the Don fiasco that our new owner (who was but wasn't or is but isn't) didn't have a pot to pish in and couldn''t afford to pay the staff over summer. Consequently within minutes of him getting the keys we were asking the PFA to pay the players. If owner A wants a million for the club then new owner B must have the onions to pay it.

3. give ALL clubs a five year deadline to get in the black. Any club not in the black faces a relegation (or two if they finish in the relegation spots anyway). Man United would have to sell and not buy, and not pay astronomic wages for a season or two in order to service the ridiculous debts. The knock on throughout the leagues would be fairer competition and a dilution of the wealth. The only possible debt a club should have (IMHO) is an overdraft equivalent to two months wages just to ensure that it ticks over.

3. As Willie said, use the PFA to pay the players wages. Use the FA to pay all transfer fee's (instantly not staggered?) and tax bills. All gate receipts etc paid into a central pot and handed back as and when football bills are settled. Let the governing body administrate its member clubs. Any club that is struggling would be identified a lot sooner and sanctions or help could get underway long before the club gets into real difficulty.

that'll do for starters

Yet another spot on post, though I am not sure that I understand No3 but, I am sure that if you are agreeing with Willie, it must be OK!!!

[Outback Ozzy]

I believe you have all got one thing regarding Manchester United seriously wrong here. Although the club are reported to be £700 million in debt, it is actually the Glazers who owe this money and they have tried to pass it on to the club, hence the reason they have had to sell their shares in the ice hockey team in the U.S. The other point is, the turnover the club have, it makes the turnover at Accy seem like pennies. Same goes for Liverpool, the American owners have also put the debt into the club, but it is them that owe the money not the football club.

Going on the the title of the thread, good luck with the phoenix club Chester and Farsley. Farsley reported to be restarting in Unibond 1 next season. Why not Chester City?

[Pendle Red]

The best business model for football and needed reforms could come from our cousins across the pond:

BBC News - American football faces financial reform

[DAV007]

Sad day for Chester.
A simple solution for stanleys future finances - get rid of O'neill.