Clayton End Roof - Page 3

harwood red · 18-09-2005, 22:09

What is the point in having someone come in and just throw loads of money at the club. Do we really want to feel in debt to one single person like the chelsea crew seem to be. Maybe it works at prem level but I believe at our level we have to establish a business not just throw money at it. Eric has put an un told amount of his personal money into stanley but is only to aware that he won't be around for ever so has set about making the club as self sufficient as possible as well as building a successful football team/club with the current management/fans. I for one are with them all the way

. Yeah I may make my criticism's but believe it to be constructive and not destructive.

Whalley Red · 18-09-2005, 23:23

It's great that Ilyas Khan is putting more money into the club. He is a shareholder and has put up money for ground development in the past, but to say that he should run the club instead of Eric shows again how little you know about this club.

You may have missed it, but Ilyas Khan lives in South-East Asia and gets back to Lancashire no more than five times per year. And he should be the chairman! If you go to the club on any day, not just match day, you'll find that Eric is there or has been there. I'd much rather have his 'hands-on' approach any day.

He has always been a tough businessman and is running the club in exactly the same way. Eric has always kept a tight rein on the finances, and he needs to with our attendances, but Coley has not been denied the players that he wants. We have a much better squad than our attendances should be able to pay for and that is because the club is very good at attracting external finances and neither Eric nor Coley want money-seeking prima donnas like Darryl Clare at this club.

If we had a sugar daddy, maybe we could sign Darryl Clare or Paul Gascoigne as you indicated, but I can look at the examples of Hornchurch and Telford this year and say with confidence that with Eric at the helm, we will never follow their example.

I remember the stagnancy at the club under John Alty's chairmanship when we were playing in front of crowds of 200-300 in a very poor quality ground. Now we are on the threshold of a return to the League, the club is moving forward both on the pitch and off it and none of that would have been possible without Eric Whalley.

Staveros · 18-09-2005, 23:56

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Originally Posted by Whalley Red

It's great that Ilyas Khan is putting more money into the club. He is a shareholder and has put up money for ground development in the past, but to say that he should run the club instead of Eric shows again how little you know about this club.

You may have missed it, but Ilyas Khan lives in South-East Asia and gets back to Lancashire no more than five times per year. And he should be the chairman! If you go to the club on any day, not just match day, you'll find that Eric is there or has been there. I'd much rather have his 'hands-on' approach any day.

He has always been a tough businessman and is running the club in exactly the same way. Eric has always kept a tight rein on the finances, and he needs to with our attendances, but Coley has not been denied the players that he wants. We have a much better squad than our attendances should be able to pay for and that is because the club is very good at attracting external finances and neither Eric nor Coley want money-seeking prima donnas like Darryl Clare at this club.

If we had a sugar daddy, maybe we could sign Darryl Clare or Paul Gascoigne as you indicated, but I can look at the examples of Hornchurch and Telford this year and say with confidence that with Eric at the helm, we will never follow their example.

I remember the stagnancy at the club under John Alty's chairmanship when we were playing in front of crowds of 200-300 in a very poor quality ground. Now we are on the threshold of a return to the League, the club is moving forward both on the pitch and off it and none of that would have been possible without Eric Whalley.

It wasnt a dig at eric dont get me wrong. I have'nt been a fan long enough to know the ins and outs but I remember he did a great job at gt harwood when I was younger. He is obviously a good man.

It was just the figures mentioned in that article about Khan. Thats some serious coin. He could make a major impact at this level without even scratching the surface of wealth like that. He is obviously a keen Stanley man as well.

I am aware he resides in Hong Kong (or south east asia as you like to call it for dramatic effect) but I dont see that as a problem.

Once he had acquired ownership he could put his own people in place, people who he knows and trusts, to run things day to day. He could even use the current administration I dare say, although im not sure you would like.

It would be an exciting proposition and would definitely attract a lot of attention to the club.

As much as I enjoyed Saturady and I will be back it was still only 1300.

Couple of big names and a runaway lead would draw loads more down.

He could be the Roman Abramovich of Accy Stanley!!

Diesel · 19-09-2005, 12:42

And I predict that Chelsea are heading for the rot that happened at Leeds....

Staveros · 19-09-2005, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Diesel

And I predict that Chelsea are heading for the rot that happened at Leeds....

dont think so some how.

Leeds trouble was that they borrowed loads and owed loads on players..

Abramovich is bankrolling Chelsea PERSONALLY

People who are jealous of Chelsea say that, it wont happen though.

Diesel · 19-09-2005, 12:48

OK, so, he's got all the worlds greats, all on daft amounts of money. Who's going to pay the wages when Roman gets bored and sods off? The club relies on Roman's money now, they are not self-sufficient

Staveros · 19-09-2005, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Diesel

OK, so, he's got all the worlds greats, all on daft amounts of money. Who's going to pay the wages when Roman gets bored and sods off? The club relies on Roman's money now, they are not self-sufficient

Well, im guessing his plan is to make them the dominanat european force for years to come, in which case they will become self sufficient. They will enjoy all the trappings of being the most marketable club in the world.

If not, then they MAY have to downsize a little, get rid of some of the huge earners or renegotiate their contracts.

Its a far cry from 'doing a Leeds' though.

Wynonie Harris · 19-09-2005, 15:32

Just been looking on the sponsorship section. It says that the Main Stand, the Whinney Hill Terrace and the "Coppice Stand" are available for sponsorship. Does this mean that the Coppice End is also going to have a roof?

maidstoneaccy · 19-09-2005, 16:19

wasnt abramavich already a chelsea fan before he bought the club, in which case he wouldnt want to get rid off them

John_Timmins · 19-09-2005, 17:02

Why does he have to become chairman as i see it the connection he has with the club is a very positiuve one for accrington stanley but yet i would say Erics is worth a damn lot more to the club therefore why not just leave it as it is and with eric and Mr Khan having a good business friendship i think the club will prosper!

maccawozzagod · 19-09-2005, 19:01

with regard to the talk of Mr Khan becoming chairman or not, pointless as this is as Eric is going nowhere. Is this not the guy who tried to buy the club for £250 000 a few years ago and was fobbed off by Eric stating that he wasn't interested even for a million quid. The Khan fella aint daft and had the choice of putting up or shutting up. He chose the latter and quietly joined the board and put money into the building of the Clayton terrace (i'm sure there is a plaque somewhere).

As regards to Eric taking the club forwards at a healthy pace, I agree thus far, but a roof over the terrace is 15 years overdue. Stanley home crowds have always felt flat compared to the vibrancy and buzz of away games. In recent years (since doubled crowds and success no doubt) home support has increased to a point where it can almost be heard from the bar when the telly is turned down. This is in no way a slight on the efforts but ****ing in the wind springs to mind. When the roof goes on I will wager 2 Barrows to a Southport and Moore that crowds will double within 2 months. A roof will amplify and retain all noise AND encourage more people to join in. Messrs Coleman, Bell and Whalley have all pleaded for the twelth man and to make the Crown (not the pub) a hostile place. Well heres your chance hierarchy, gizza tin roof and you will have 15th man on the field, carnivale on the terrace, another twelve grand a game on the gate, and as far as hostile goes, you can bring your Barrows, your Burtons, Blyths, Worksofts or even your dads: The Crown will be the daddy of them all.

Henry Morton · 19-09-2005, 21:27

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

with regard to the talk of Mr Khan becoming chairman or not, pointless as this is as Eric is going nowhere. Is this not the guy who tried to buy the club for £250 000 a few years ago and was fobbed off by Eric stating that he wasn't interested even for a million quid. The Khan fella aint daft and had the choice of putting up or shutting up. He chose the latter and quietly joined the board and put money into the building of the Clayton terrace (i'm sure there is a plaque somewhere).

As regards to Eric taking the club forwards at a healthy pace, I agree thus far, but a roof over the terrace is 15 years overdue. Stanley home crowds have always felt flat compared to the vibrancy and buzz of away games. In recent years (since doubled crowds and success no doubt) home support has increased to a point where it can almost be heard from the bar when the telly is turned down. This is in no way a slight on the efforts but ****ing in the wind springs to mind. When the roof goes on I will wager 2 Barrows to a Southport and Moore that crowds will double within 2 months. A roof will amplify and retain all noise AND encourage more people to join in. Messrs Coleman, Bell and Whalley have all pleaded for the twelth man and to make the Crown (not the pub) a hostile place. Well heres your chance hierarchy, gizza tin roof and you will have 15th man on the field, carnivale on the terrace, another twelve grand a game on the gate, and as far as hostile goes, you can bring your Barrows, your Burtons, Blyths, Worksofts or even your dads: The Crown will be the daddy of them all.

You're right in your assertion that the Clayton End Roof will make a big difference to attendances, but it's not because of the (undoubted) acoustic advantage which that structure will afford . . . it's because the comfort and dryness will retain fair-weather supporters whom we'd otherwise lose.

Diesel · 19-09-2005, 21:51

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Originally Posted by maidstoneaccy

wasnt abramavich already a chelsea fan before he bought the club, in which case he wouldnt want to get rid off them

...and isn't Malcolm Glazer a Manchester United fan? Just because they claim it, doesn't make it so. And who was the fella that bought Tottenham years ago, claiming to be a fan, but kept calling the club Hotspurs?

Jimbo T Hornblower · 20-09-2005, 07:37

I have a big Chelsea fan stayin with me at the moment and he tells me that Abramovich wasnt a Chelsea fan before he bought the club - he was a football fan and had seen the quality of the Premiership, liked it and wanted a piece of the action so to speak. Luckily for Chelsea, or unluckily, dependant on how you want to look at the situation, Ken Bates met Abramovich and convinced him that Chelsea was the club. Up until that point, all Abramovich had done was put his oil company on the front of CSKA Moscows shirts...

Ilyas will continue to support Stanley as he has been doing all this time - as a freind and supporter of the club - its just something like naming a stand/roof is obviously a more public thing for him to do... I bet you if, god forbid, Stanley were ever in danger of going under (cant see that under King Eric though) he would step in to help out too...
Jimbo T

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Willie Miller · 20-09-2005, 09:51

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Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

with regard to the talk of Mr Khan becoming chairman or not, pointless as this is as Eric is going nowhere. Is this not the guy who tried to buy the club for £250 000 a few years ago and was fobbed off by Eric stating that he wasn't interested even for a million quid. The Khan fella aint daft and had the choice of putting up or shutting up. He chose the latter and quietly joined the board and put money into the building of the Clayton terrace (i'm sure there is a plaque somewhere).

As regards to Eric taking the club forwards at a healthy pace, I agree thus far, but a roof over the terrace is 15 years overdue. Stanley home crowds have always felt flat compared to the vibrancy and buzz of away games. In recent years (since doubled crowds and success no doubt) home support has increased to a point where it can almost be heard from the bar when the telly is turned down. This is in no way a slight on the efforts but ****ing in the wind springs to mind. When the roof goes on I will wager 2 Barrows to a Southport and Moore that crowds will double within 2 months. A roof will amplify and retain all noise AND encourage more people to join in. Messrs Coleman, Bell and Whalley have all pleaded for the twelth man and to make the Crown (not the pub) a hostile place. Well heres your chance hierarchy, gizza tin roof and you will have 15th man on the field, carnivale on the terrace, another twelve grand a game on the gate, and as far as hostile goes, you can bring your Barrows, your Burtons, Blyths, Worksofts or even your dads: The Crown will be the daddy of them all.

Jesus, man! I got butterflies after that! Top Post & for me, the best thing I have heard on here ever!

Send it in to the club for the features page!!! & the Observer!