Control Room Extension Refused!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by DAV007

find which polticial party the councillors in question represent.
Go to their nearest opposition and put out a petition.
As soon as they fear they could lose office and their 10 grand a year tax free spare time job, they will soon change their mind.

It has nothing to do with Councillors. The planning officers are employed by the Council to do their job. If the Councillors over ruled them, which they do, and upset resident could appeal and if there appeal was right then the club would loose.

Councillors often over rule the planners only to loose out on appeal.

There is a good program on the TV about planners and what powers they have on the TV at the moment. It showed a case where Councillors went againts the advice of the planning committee - they Councillors lost at appeal.

[Haggis316]

Originally Posted by Neil

There is a good program on the TV about planners and what powers they have on the TV at the moment. It showed a case where Councillors went againts the advice of the planning committee - they Councillors lost at appeal.

If the Council had upheld the application no one would/could have appealed.

[coxy]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Hyndburn Council

107 The Bee: Councillors deny they have it in for Stanley

If this leads to the club being chucked out of the league, I hope the council feel proud of themselves.

Agree with you completly more concerned about there own well-beings

[Outback Ozzy]

Originally Posted by lancsdave

I beleive the club have to supply a fixed control room, it's not a police function. I think it's the responsiility of the H&S officer to maintain control inside the ground to adhere to the safety certificate. From what I've seen police on duty at a Stanley match are few and far between

Your correct on the Police point, this is because most of Accy's match's are low key affairs as regards Policing. The only time there is a bigger police presence is when there is a team who are known to have a bunch of idiots that support them (we know who they are, don't we!) Certain teams even bring their local force with them as spotters to advise local officers who the numpties are. The only point about the control room is that it must have 360 degree views of the ground plus certain cameras looking around the outsid. This we have now, but if it has to be moved, it is not just the building of it, but also the moving of all the optical cabling and tannoy and phone cabling, not a big job for someone in the know. Hopefully, the club will have this sorted for next season or otherwise we could have bigger problems, because I am sure you need this for Blue Square Conference or Football League, wherever we end up next season.

[mab]

[Quote] Hopefully, the club will have this sorted for next season or otherwise we could have bigger problems, because I am sure you need this for Blue Square Conference or Football League, wherever we end up next season.[unquote] thats cheered me up Outback Ozzy no end

[madkev]

We will be in the football league of course, i'm quite happy to offer my help with a paintbrush or whatever,i'm always glad to help the stanley out if needed!

[fc:stanley]

Dont forget the stand we have to have! Lots of things to be done at the FES!

[MikeA]

Originally Posted by DAV007

As soon as they fear they could lose office and their 10 grand a year tax free spare time job, they will soon change their mind.

To be fair, it's subject to tax and National Insurance Contributions, just like any other job. And, apart from the leader and a few of the committee chairmen, I think you'll find the allowance is significantly less than £10,000; probably less than half.

[DAV007]

Originally Posted by MikeA

To be fair, it's subject to tax and National Insurance Contributions, just like any other job. And, apart from the leader and a few of the committee chairmen, I think you'll find the allowance is significantly less than £10,000; probably less than half.

Mike - that is simply not ture.

There is no tax on it as it is seen as 'expenses'.
The lowest 'paid' councillors in the country are on 9 grand

a vice chairmen or full chairman of a council is looking at 14-16k

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by madkev

We will be in the football league of course, i'm quite happy to offer my help with a paintbrush or whatever,i'm always glad to help the stanley out if needed!

Now that's the real spirit of Stanley...a lad from Cleethorpes offering to come over and help out. What a pity some who live a great deal nearer the club don't have just a little bit of that spirit.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by DAV007

Mike - that is simply not ture.

There is no tax on it as it is seen as 'expenses'.
The lowest 'paid' councillors in the country are on 9 grand

a vice chairmen or full chairman of a council is looking at 14-16k

And what is wrong with that? Many are very hard working.

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Now that's the real spirit of Stanley...a lad from Cleethorpes offering to come over and help out. What a pity some who live a great deal nearer the club don't have just a little bit of that spirit.

Not everyone has that sort of time on there hands. As you know going to away matches can be a day of a thing. For many that leaves just one day to be with their families.

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by Neil

Not everyone has that sort of time on there hands. As you know going to away matches can be a day of a thing. For many that leaves just one day to be with their families.

Quite right, Neil. As a family man with children (and grandchildren!), nobody knows that better than me. However, I was just contrasting the attitude of Kev, who is willing to travel over a hundred miles to help out the club he loves, with some locals who seem to want to obstruct the club at every turn.

I could also go on at length about locals who seem to have plenty of time on their hands to sit in pubs watching Premier League TV on a Saturday afternoon, instead of getting themselves up to FES, but that is a well-ploughed furrow, so I'll just mention it in passing.

By the way, Neil, if the call does go out for painters, I'll be expecting you to turn up, brush in hand (and never mind about all this "I'm not interested in football" stuff!).

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

By the way, Neil, if the call does go out for painters, I'll be expecting you to turn up, brush in hand (and never mind about all this "I'm not interested in football" stuff!).

Sorry mate I would love to help but I have 7000 daff and about 2000 crocus bulbs to plant in the park

What are you like at bulb planting, I have a couple of excellent tools for the job.

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

By the way, Neil, if the call does go out for painters,

I've corrected the size of the if for you Mr H

Doesn't a call go out every close season for help, I seem to recall Macca asking last close season, how come this job wasn't on the list given it's importance ?

[MikeA]

Originally Posted by DAV007

Mike - that is simply not ture.

There is no tax on it as it is seen as 'expenses'.
The lowest 'paid' councillors in the country are on 9 grand

a vice chairmen or full chairman of a council is looking at 14-16k

Sorry, Dave, but I'm familiar with the legislation on this. For obvious reasons, the rules are very strict. Take a look at Tax treatment of Local Government Councillors and civic dignitaries: allowances Councillors may receive for the tax position.

You'll also find that it is the leader, rather than the chairman, who generally attracts the largest allowance. Hyndburn's scheme is at http://www.hyndburnbc.gov.uk/downloa...sScheme_1_.pdf, where you'll see that the basic allowance for a councillor is £4338. Expenses are paid but are only tax free if they represent specific expenditure on council business.