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04-05-2020, 14:23
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Re: Coronovirus
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Originally Posted by Twenty Eight
It's interesting how football always talks of its uniqueness.
Can't imagine many other sports being in a different position.
Don't hear many Cricket Clubs, Rugby League / Union shouting get us back in front of crowds or we're finished.
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I've heard quite a lot of squealing from all these sports - a government bailout for RL was reported only yesterday. But in any case, generally their gate takings are much lower than at football's top level, and their player wage bills much further from insane. So the immediate impact is less severe.
Which is not to say that a good few L1 and L2 clubs might not have to go semi-pro (at least) to survive a season with no gate income. Which would leave a lot of good honest professionals, who've never earned silly salaries, out of work with few prospects.
A limited dose of realism would be no bad thing for the professional game. But a full season would be pretty catastrophic.
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04-05-2020, 14:46
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Re: Coronovirus
Pro football is different to cricket and RL as our season has nearly finished; neither of their's have started.
County cricket doesn't get massive crowds ( apart from T20) and can sort of be played with out contact.
RL has had a "bale out" as the World Cup is being staged here next year and suspect most clubs don't pay massive wages.
Football has big crowds, impossible to play and "social distance" and we're 3/4 of the wage through a season.
Plus we link into European competitions which generate cash for a lot of industries.
The money HM Govt will get from football will be massive;
Income Tax; 12.8% employers NI, 20% VAT on all gate money, the booze we all drink at games is heavily taxed etc.
Obviously safety is paramount
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05-05-2020, 07:31
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Re: Coronovirus
This is a short extract from a piece written by football finance lecturer Kieran Maguire:- If the Premier League is unable to replace the £667 million match day revenue during a season-long lockdown then there will presumably be more clubs who need to negotiate wage reductions with players or face the possibility of going out of business, premier league football ball is not immune from the virus.
If that scenario of no fans at football extends to next season which is quite possibly what does that mean to Stanley and the rest of football if the above article is any were near accurate.
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05-05-2020, 09:24
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Re: Coronovirus
back to rugby league. outside its top division the super league its still more or less a part time sport where many clubs survive of three figure crowds and rarely anything more. more like the national league north in football terms.
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06-05-2020, 12:07
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Re: Coronovirus
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back to rugby league. outside its top division the super league its still more or less a part time sport where many clubs survive of three figure crowds and rarely anything more. more like the national league north in football terms.
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Not so mate.
List of Championship average attendances:
Toronto Wolfpack 6,521
Bradford Bulls 4,339
Widnes Vikings 4,321
Leigh Centurions 3,259
Toulouse Olympique 2,488
Featherstone Rovers 2,235
York City Knights 2,125
Halifax RLFC 1,761
Barrow Raiders 1,389
Batley Bulldogs 1,347
Dewsbury Rams 1,231
Swinton Lions 1,078
Sheffield Eagles 944
Rochdale Hornets 795
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06-05-2020, 14:18
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Re: Coronovirus
Link to our captains interview with BBC Sport...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/52561141
Have a word Twenty Eight, he’s turning into a celebrity with these interviews
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06-05-2020, 14:25
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Re: Coronovirus
fair play to him its a good interview, ta fer putting it on,
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06-05-2020, 14:43
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Re: Coronovirus
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All part of the greater plan ...... careers end like it or not. He's studying hard.
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06-05-2020, 17:00
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Re: Coronovirus
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All part of the greater plan ...... careers end like it or not. He's studying hard.
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Unfortunately can see a lot of careers in football ending prematurely.
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06-05-2020, 17:32
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Re: Coronovirus
Well biased or otherwise the club will have to go a long way to find a more devoted Club Captain who takes his role very seriously indeed added to which contrary to popular belief is a good player to boot.
I hope that the powers that be realise it and keep him.
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06-05-2020, 17:51
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Re: Coronovirus
Scunthorpe United the latest to announce retained list 11 first team players and 4 under 23,s released and a lot of local news media,s across the country have on reports of a lot of EFL club doctors raising safety concerns are saying likely EFL will cancel this season next week.
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06-05-2020, 18:19
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Re: Coronovirus
On the example of Scunthorpe those numbers are not surprising even in a standard season so it shouldn't be suggested they've been distorted by the current epidemic.
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06-05-2020, 19:04
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Re: Coronovirus
Not about Scunthorpe those players remain on the books untill 30th June do you think that if the scenario of behind closed doors was played out any of those players wouldn't be involved I presume thus creating a unfair playing field similar to the Bolton fiasco at the start of this season.
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07-05-2020, 08:07
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Re: Coronovirus
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Not about Scunthorpe those players remain on the books untill 30th June do you think that if the scenario of behind closed doors was played out any of those players wouldn't be involved I presume thus creating a unfair playing field similar to the Bolton fiasco at the start of this season.
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Correct sir;
That's why the cut off date of the 30th July is so important.
Any player (and there's 1400 of them in L1 and L2) who's contract expires June 30th 2020 gets another months "severance pay" IF they've not found another club. The EFL are fairly sure as a "one off" that the PFA will ask their members to play in July IF needed.
IF season recommences June 6th; I'm thinking regular season would end July 4th; so only teams involved in-play offs would be playing deep into July. To protect the integrity of the competition only current players can play in this season's games
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07-05-2020, 08:29
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Re: Coronovirus
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Correct sir;
That's why the cut off date of the 30th July is so important.
Any player (and there's 1400 of them in L1 and L2) who's contract expires June 30th 2020 gets another months "severance pay" IF they've not found another club. The EFL are fairly sure as a "one off" that the PFA will ask their members to play in July IF needed.
IF season recommences June 6th; I'm thinking regular season would end July 4th; so only teams involved in-play offs would be playing deep into July. To protect the integrity of the competition only current players can play in this season's games
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Unless there is a significant contribution to playing behind closed doors then protecting the integrity of the competition would lead to the destruction of the competition as we now know it. Also the premiership,s determination to finish the season behind closed doors and air it to the
public has if we are all desperate to watch soulless empty stadium games shows to me how our of touch with genuine non armchair supporters they are.
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