Cowshed Power

[MCR ADIM]

i agree say at united where thier is 75,00+ every home game is you shout rooney your not a top flight football your just an over paid w****r than he aint going to hear you really is he! but at stanley were you are so close to the pitch and they can hear you it does effect the players so lets get behind them and cheer them on and support them becuase they do play for our team even if we like it or not

[shakermaker]

Originally Posted by MCR ADIM

even when he does play out of his skin last two games you still dont have a good word to say about you! so when your doing something at work or whatever would you like it if people kept saying that rubbish etc than when you think you have done it well they still say rubbish etc

He was awful against Aldershot - you don't mention that at all?
It's clear that he only stepped up his game against Wolves and Vale to secure a deal with Huddersfield. That is not putting effort in for the good of the team.
Put it this way - he's the exact opposite of Paul Mullin. Craney has talent that could knock on the door of the Premier league but an attitude and commitment level that drags him down to leagues one and two. Paul Mullin isn't a naturally gifted football player but works very hard at his game indeed, and even in dips of form is giving his all.
Put the rose tinted specs down and you shall see the light brother.

[Oldgobbin]

I think he's picking up Shaker's remarks about Craney, TM.

[shakermaker]

Originally Posted by Oldgobbin

Under other circumstances, in a large football stadium, I could agree with you Shaker, but these comments are often made at a range of less than 10 - 15 yards, from a sparsely populated area of the ground. All of a sudden, they become that much more personal - and difficult to ignore! Yet woe betide any player who responds to it - as Shaun Whalley did on occasions last year! Professional footballers they may be, but they are still young men who are out there trying to do their best for the club which these "vocal gentlemen" profess to support.

These aren't eight year old boys, Oldgobbin. Football players shouldn't be abused, no, but it happens and it isn't unique to the cow sheds at the Fraser Eagle Stadium. Targeted players should respond with their football and not be personally affected. As I've said earlier if they do get personally affected by such comments then they really are in the wrong walk of life.

[stanleyfan]

They get paid a hell of alot even at this level. Lets face it they are doing something they really enjoy and most people's jobs are the exact opposite

[MCR ADIM]

why is it any different if you want to move onwards and upwards than your always going to try and give 100% some people enjoy thier jobs even if they dont get paid alot

[DAV007]

With the new form and effort of a certain John Miles - could he be the answer?

If he puts in a shift similar to Port vale, and shows he creativity and willingness to make runs - he will probably prove more effective through the middle. Its just his positional sense really - to often standing in no-mans land.

Im being serious, John Miles has always possessed the ability - the application has been none existent. If he sorts it out, who knows?

[mab]

John Miles good player in my book wasn,t given a real chance when he arrived from the Silkmen,or even J Ryan to step in to Ians shoes a good prospect

[LongLostSon]

If a player is having a stinker, then it is natural to groan and utter a despondent "come on" to whoever. But in my book to give personal abuse to a Stanley player - well you might just as well be sporting an opposition shirt ! - bet the opposition love these cowshedites reported on this thread.

[Willie Miller]

Originally Posted by Oldgobbin

It might be said that this post belongs on the Ian Craney thread, but I believe it has far wider repercussions and may, in the end, result in further decimation of what is already a wafer-thin squad.

There is a certain vociferous minority of “gentlemen” of a certain age who frequent the cowshed and who, I believe are, in the long run, doing no good for the club. Their latest exploits came at the Aldershot game, where strident cries of “B**ger off to Morecambe, Craney, you’re no bl**dy good” could have done nothing for Craney’s confidence, or, indeed for his inclination to stay and win promotion with Stanley.

This same group, last season, went a long way towards destroying Shaun Whalley, with the result that his home performances in no way matched some of his man-of the- match shows away from home. You aren’t going to perform with shouts of “Whalley, you’re not fit to play for a pub team!” ringing in your ears.

Okay, I haven’t always agreed with Coley’s tactics or team selection but, simple soul that I am, I feel that, as supporters, the very least we can do is get behind the guys in red on that field. I’ve even been known to shout words of encouragement to Branch on occasions – and that took some doing!

To link once again with today’s latest squad development, I feel that there are people who call themselves supporters, who need to look very closely at their actions, whether it be in the cowshed or here online, where match-winners are sometimes dubbed “Useless”.

If you want to drive away good players, so be it, but, for my part, I support Stanley, have done for many years, and will always try to give 100% support to the players who represent them.

Goodbye and good luck Ian Craney, make the Huddersfield fans proud of you. Good luck Shaun Whalley. Keep doing the business for Wrexham, even though it is at Blue Square level. I hope the supporters of those clubs deserve you more than ours do!!

Cracking post, folk wonder why Accy are world beaters away from home.......

[Oggy]

Originally Posted by Oldgobbin

Nobody WANTS to turn in below-par performances and I firmly believe that,in such circumstances ,it's our job to encourage, not abuse. It will be interesting to see who's the next Cowshed Target, for, believe me, there will certainly be one, cos I think that's one of the main reasons these guys come!

Agree with most of what you're saying Oldgobbin, but particularly the above. One friend who I come with reckons it's mainly because they're under the cosh at home or work, or both.
There could well be something in that.

What effect it has on the players I'm not sure, but encouraging players should be the way, especially the younger ones. Years ago, before Coley, someone tackled an incessant moaner (when they stood where the newest bit of stand is), and was told, " I've paid my money, I'll shout at them as much as I want".
Point of view I suppose, but not mine.

Last season at the Crown wore everybody down, and a couple of wins would help, but this continuous barracking of our own players wears me down more. (Especially during the 90 minute reprieve from Ricky Kirby)

[Outback Ozzy]

To put this thread into perspective, go on to the Port Vale thread for after the Stanley match and they say much the same about their team and management. According to some this is why they lost. Now that was a decent ground with 6,600 folks in of which 6.500 were Port Vale fans. So it seems the way to go is to play all the games away from home and not risk the local supporters abuse of certain players. I know it is never going to happen - so the answer is to get behind the players - even if they are having a stinker - that way, we should be able to romp away with this league.

On the other side of the coin, good luck to Ian Craney, I know not everyone thinks he was the bees knees of the club (and I am one of them) but all the best at Huddersfield.

[Wynonie Harris]

So what happens to this little bunch of saddos when the new stand is built? Presumably, they'll be standing on the Clayton End? Hope they're near me - I'll be giving 'em plenty of verbal!!

[depechemode]

Am glad Craney has gone , it might mean when we are chasing a game coleman might bring a striker on instead of pushing Ian up front . How many good games has Craney had since he came back ? Hope he does well at huddersfield though , but did stan ten buy him on advise from gary roberts ?

[Tin Monkey]

To be honest, although the 'banter' can get a little out of hand, many of the comments from the cowshed are very much tongue-in-cheek and have people laughing.

Yes of course things may get personal, but that happens at every level.

Personally I never negatively abuse players while they are on the pitch, as I don't think it does them any good and I've yet to see an abused player suddenly start playing better.