Dave O'Neil statement

[shakermaker]

O'Neill needs to put his money where his mouth is. Still no donation from directors into the fund; only one less director.

Of the people appointed by O'Neill, who has done what exactly? Marcelle has done nothing for the club except have a night out at the dogs and appear in a couple of specialist media outlets. Granville, as far as we know, got lost somewhere.

Ilyas Khan could've wiped the club's debts clean and recapitalised the club. That was deemed as 'too conditional' and 'not in the best interests of Accrington Stanley Football Club'. ON WHAT ****ING PLANET is that not in the best interests of ASFC? O'Neill would've lost a holding majority in a debt-ridden, North West Counties bound wasted club and gained a position within a debt-free club with potential to prosper. He would've made his money back in a few seasons if he so wished. But no. He didn't even have the courtesy to meet with Mr Khan and discuss the offer.

David 'don't blame me, it's not my problem' O'Neill is only looking out for number one. He knew well before the winding-up order that HMRC were on the hunt and that football clubs were being targeted primarily. He knew that he did not have the funds to wipe the debt clean and move the club forward. He knows that he can't support a football league club financially. David O'Neill can't cope and is too stubborn to see that.

Despite what anyone says, Accrington deserves a football league team. Of course we will all watch Stanley whoever we play in whatever league, but that feeling of hammering goals past ex-Premier League big boys pretending to be massive and actually competing in the league is what it's all about. Constantly proving people wrong. It'll be tragic to see this club resign and fall.

What we face now is a question of the lesser of two evils. Do we let this club fall unfairly into the pits of non-league football or do we fight to clear this immediate debt, putting up with the total idiot that currently owns the club? I'd rather not raise money to keep O'Neill in his ignorant bliss, but now Mr Khan has been told to **** off for the last time there's no way to save the club without backing O'Neill. As has been said elsewhere (think it was WM) and should perhaps be used as a new slogan for fans; we can't let Coley & the boys down. They deserve this club to be in the football league just as much as the faithful do, if not moreso.

[Redraine]

Pathetic from the interviewer:-
"Did you expect all this when you took over?"
"Has it been a stressful time for you?"
"How confident are you that the debt will be cleared?"
"Thank you for coming on - I know you don't like interviews"
W.T.F.?
Complete absence of probing of O'Neil's wishy-washy platitudes, like " Lets all get together and get this thing sorted out".
Words fail me.

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by Willie Miller

You got a plan for who takes over?

John Batchelor? An Arab businessman? That bird off Corrie? Jim Bowen?
Winstanley the mascot?

PMSL nice one.

At the moment I believe any of those would do a better job than DON, my personal favourite from that list would be Mr Bowen, smashing.

[yonmon]

Originally Posted by Revived Red

Presumably the interviewer did not press him on this. What's wrong with these media people? We needed a Paxman or a Humphrys to really have a go at him.

"And I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again".

He was pressed on this statement Red...and honesty he sounded more Hopeful than Assured !!...However.as he admitted the man finds it difficult to find what to say when interviewed..so perhaps he was a little bit 'lost'...or did he just sound that way!!.

Still, there's Ms Lazarus' declarations to come ...so who knows??

'ON MARCELLE....ON!!!'

[Revived Red]

Originally Posted by Redraine

Pathetic from the interviewer:-
"Did you expect all this when you took over?"
"Has it been a stressful time for you?"
"How confident are you that the debt will be cleared?"
"Thank you for coming on - I know you don't like interviews"
W.T.F.?
Complete absence of probing of O'Neil's wishy-washy platitudes, like " Lets all get together and get this thing sorted out".
Words fail me.

Just as I thought. Are there no real budding investigative reporters out there?

[Stanleymad]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

PMSL nice one.

At the moment I believe any of those would do a better job than DON, my personal favourite from that list would be Mr Bowen, smashing.

I was banking on winstanley with those puppy dog eyes money will roll in. That bird out of corrie always finds solutions to problems ours a piece of cake to her. As for wishful thinking - well thats me

[Redraine]

Originally Posted by yonmon

"And I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again".

He was pressed on this statement Red...and honesty he sounded more Hopeful than Assured !!...However.as he admitted the man finds it difficult to find what to say when interviewed..so perhaps he was a little bit 'lost'...or did he just sound that way!!.

Still, there's Ms Lazarus' declarations to come ...so who knows??

'ON MARCELLE....ON!!!'

Stop kidding yourself, Yonmon! O'Neill had a golden opportunity to allay our fears and came up with jack s**t. No way can this lot keep us in the football league.

[Revived Red]

Originally Posted by yonmon

"And I assure you that I will not let Accrington Stanley fold again".

He was pressed on this statement Red...and honesty he sounded more Hopeful than Assured !!...However.as he admitted the man finds it difficult to find what to say when interviewed..so perhaps he was a little bit 'lost'...or did he just sound that way!!.

Still, there's Ms Lazarus' declarations to come ...so who knows??

'ON MARCELLE....ON!!!'

A good interviewer should make it easy for him to know what to say.

• "Will you personally be putting any more more money into the SOS Fund, Mr O'Neill?" (To help him, the answer would be YES or NO)
• "Will any of your fellow board members be putting more more into the SOS Fund, Mr O'Neill?" (Again YES or NO)

......and now for a really difficult one because it requires a full sentence :

• "What fund raising plans do you have, Mr O'Neill?"

But the real reason for his reticence could well be that he did not want to steal Marcelle's thunder when she reveals all (about fundraising, of course) on her radio programme.

[Redraine]

Originally Posted by shakermaker

O'Neill needs to put his money where his mouth is. Still no donation from directors into the fund; only one less director.

Of the people appointed by O'Neill, who has done what exactly? Marcelle has done nothing for the club except have a night out at the dogs and appear in a couple of specialist media outlets. Granville, as far as we know, got lost somewhere.

Ilyas Khan could've wiped the club's debts clean and recapitalised the club. That was deemed as 'too conditional' and 'not in the best interests of Accrington Stanley Football Club'. ON WHAT ****ING PLANET is that not in the best interests of ASFC? O'Neill would've lost a holding majority in a debt-ridden, North West Counties bound wasted club and gained a position within a debt-free club with potential to prosper. He would've made his money back in a few seasons if he so wished. But no. He didn't even have the courtesy to meet with Mr Khan and discuss the offer.

David 'don't blame me, it's not my problem' O'Neill is only looking out for number one. He knew well before the winding-up order that HMRC were on the hunt and that football clubs were being targeted primarily. He knew that he did not have the funds to wipe the debt clean and move the club forward. He knows that he can't support a football league club financially. David O'Neill can't cope and is too stubborn to see that.

Despite what anyone says, Accrington deserves a football league team. Of course we will all watch Stanley whoever we play in whatever league, but that feeling of hammering goals past ex-Premier League big boys pretending to be massive and actually competing in the league is what it's all about. Constantly proving people wrong. It'll be tragic to see this club resign and fall.

What we face now is a question of the lesser of two evils. Do we let this club fall unfairly into the pits of non-league football or do we fight to clear this immediate debt, putting up with the total idiot that currently owns the club? I'd rather not raise money to keep O'Neill in his ignorant bliss, but now Mr Khan has been told to **** off for the last time there's no way to save the club without backing O'Neill. As has been said elsewhere (think it was WM) and should perhaps be used as a new slogan for fans; we can't let Coley & the boys down. They deserve this club to be in the football league just as much as the faithful do, if not moreso.

Great post, Shaker, but;-
"there's no way to save the club without backing O'Neill" seems to be a non-starter unless he grovels at Ilyas's door, and as Ilyas says, that's not going to happen. O'Neill will go down with his ship like the captain of the Titanic.

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by Redraine

O'Neill will go down with his ship like the captain of the Titanic.

It's not his ship it's ours, he's just a stowaway.

[Redraine]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

It's not his ship it's ours, he's just a stowaway.

Untrue, sadly. If it was our ship Ilyas would be on board it.

[caretaker]

I am starting to get the impression that even if David Oniel was to pay off Whalleys tax bill, pay the players wages out of his own pocket, put a new roof on the away stand, and give away free pie and peas to the home fans,he still would not be liked(can this be true)?

[Fatso]

Originally Posted by caretaker

I am starting to get the impression that even if David Oniel was to pay off Whalleys tax bill, pay the players wages out of his own pocket, put a new roof on the away stand, and give away free pie and peas to the home fans,he still would not be liked(can this be true)?

I'd like anyone that bought me a pie...

[Revived Red]

I rather think so. But if he were to give free pie and peas to the away fans (beef sarnies for Hereford, jellied eels for Barnet), he may win a modicum of popularity.

[Willie Miller]

Originally Posted by caretaker

I am starting to get the impression that even if David Oniel was to pay off Whalleys tax bill, pay the players wages out of his own pocket, put a new roof on the away stand, and give away free pie and peas to the home fans,he still would not be liked(can this be true)?

If he gets us out of this mess he will have my unconditional support, forever.