Drummer - Page 2

Bagpuss · 20-08-2006, 07:59

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

I've been making the numbers up for the past 28 years and its a good job people like me have done, or perhaps there wouldn't be a club there now for you to support?
I've never sat in the stand, even though I helped to build it all those years ago, when we dug the foundations for the extension with spades. I don't stand in silence during a game, but I don't feel the need to sing and continually make a show of myself.

You support the club in your way and I'll do it in mine. But never even begin to imagine that one way is superior to another.

Oh dear in the last line you say that no one is superior but reading your first line it looks to me that you already think you are on a higher level of supporting. Come on adnit it you don't like the new breed of supporters and wish we where back in the conference. I think you where on the FE coach at Stockport, a trip where I sat with some fans who have been going for years while I've only had a season ticket for two years. Maybe you should have sat with us and joined in in your OWN WAY.

pipinfort · 20-08-2006, 08:04

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Originally Posted by KIPAX

Drum would be good if it was played properly. Just whacking it as loud as you can for the whole game is a killer... not good at all... Sorry Matt and Frank.. no offence meant

definately agree with that one kipax, used in context its great for drumming (no pun intended lol) up atmosphere and works a treat.......................whereas inane constant banging is just plain annoying.

Tin Monkey · 20-08-2006, 08:22

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Oh dear in the last line you say that no one is superior but reading your first line it looks to me that you already think you are on a higher level of supporting. Come on adnit it you don't like the new breed of supporters and wish we where back in the conference. I think you where on the FE coach at Stockport, a trip where I sat with some fans who have been going for years while I've only had a season ticket for two years. Maybe you should have sat with us and joined in in your OWN WAY.

You really are an obnoxious character aren't you? Not only have you made a series of false accusations on here (claiming false recordings of gates, etc), but you are way off the mark once again. I suggest you think very carefully before posting your drivel once again.

Ber999T · 20-08-2006, 08:24

Right before there is some nastiness said lets just get things in context please.

Both groups of supporters want the same thing i.e. ASFC to do well and be supported (YES???)

Some people have been long-term members of the club (not saying OSC just the club) and have been through thick and thin with the team, others have started to follow ASFC in the past few years and power to ALL of you for the loyal and proud support you have all shown to the club. Let me just say that if someone wants to sing/cheer then they can, if someone wants to stand and clap when they want they can.

I am usually placed into the away end so can you see how I have to stand with hands deep in pockets when ASFC score!!

Back to thread now. Yes the suggestion to have drum on afternoon games is a good idea and yes to it being used to rally the fans at certain time within the game.

KIPAX · 20-08-2006, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

I helped to build it all those years ago, when we dug the foundations for the extension with spades. .

I knew that... I wasnt there but I knew it was you TM and I pretty much know who else was there.

First time I went on stanley there was half a stand and I stood on the terrace thats now the other half.... i think it (the terrace half) had a roof... pretty sure it did.. but not 100%

KIPAX · 20-08-2006, 09:48

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Originally Posted by Ber999T

Right before there is some nastiness said lets just get things in context please.

Both groups of supporters want the same thing i.e. ASFC to do well and be supported (YES???)

Some people have been long-term members of the club (not saying OSC just the club)

What on earth are you talking about.. this has nothing to do with ultras/osc .. please dont take it down that rd , not even a hint of it

KIPAX · 20-08-2006, 09:55

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Come on adnit it you don't like the new breed of supporters and wish we where back in

I dont agree with anything else said about you TM .. I think your right to take offence.. theres more people like you who dont sing and would prefer to concentrate on the game.. and you have probbaly done more for the club (I dont just mean turning up to watch) than 70% of the ultras put together...

But I think he is right with this bit... your not the most welcoming to new supporters... you where one of the ones that gave me a hard time .. If everyone was as welcoming as you then most of us wouldnt be here... people like Jimbo T hornblower, JEFF, loweiy and the like who welcome and encourage us are the ones that keep the club alive... people who discourage new supporters could kill the club if they ever became the majority...

Lets all do our own thing and not try to force our way on others

Tin Monkey · 20-08-2006, 10:36

Fair enough Kipax. However, our banter was nothing more than a wind-up to me anyway. You're always saying that you don't take the messageboard seriously and that it's not like real life. I agree with that and whenever we've had dealings face-to-face, we've always got on ok.

I would love to see more new supporters on the Stanley. Nothing (much) gives me a bigger thrill than being on the ground with a big crowd and I'd love to have a big bank of supporters chanting on matchday, as they did at Stockport on Friday night. I'll chat with anyone on the ground, whether they've been coming 5 minutes or 40 years and i give them the respect they deserve.

However, I draw the line when people start measuring a fan's commitment to the club and their level of support by how loud they shout, or by the prominence of their position on the ground, in the media, etc. We all support our team in our own way. Just because people aren't shouting/singing constantly doesn't make them any less commited to the cause.

I admit that some of my postings on here may have been interpreted as negative towards new fans, but the majority of those postings were very much tongue in cheek. Similar to your position, I don't take the messageboard that seriously, and I'll chat with anyone on the ground, be they a new supporter or an established face.

KIPAX · 20-08-2006, 10:42

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Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

However, I draw the line when people start measuring a fan's commitment to the club and their level of support by how loud they shout, or by the prominence of their position on the ground, in the media, etc. We all support our team in our own way. Just because people aren't shouting/singing constantly doesn't make them any less commited to the cause.

Absoloiutly 100% agree and I doubt anyone is brain dead enough to argue your point... lets all do it our way.. each to his own..

Willie Miller · 20-08-2006, 11:21

It doesn't matter how anyone supports ASFC just as long as we do! But as an committed "singer" I'd like the rest of the ground to at least appear "passionate". At some grounds if their winger skins the full back the main stand will clap, encourage, cheer, raise a fist. I've seen Toddy skin the full back recently & you get nothing from our mainstand. This I'm sure is what Coley criticises about the people over his shoulder.

Also at County, fans who usually sing sat on their arses because we were on an open terrace "up against" that huge stand in front of us. So? I'm all for fans who don't wanna sing not singing, no problem. We should have bounced around that away end in our own special way as normal. I'd love it if some fans would lose their inhibitions & let their hair down but hey thats only my opinion.

I also noticed at County that a few fans wouldn't join in the encouragement but would stand to scream "Roberts you w inker pass it etc etc". Its only my opnion but thats what we don't need 4 games into a new league.

Whether singing or talking lets keep attending- hundreds didn't on Friday. Listen we had more at Halifax, more at Southport, more at Morecambe. I just don't get whats goin on this season. Very strange.

BTW TM, we gonna keep plugging away with the press coverage. Hopefully the more we do or try to do the more people may just get "interested". Genuinely, nobody is after any personal gain. If I thought ASFC fans were thinking that I'd just sit in the main stand & wait to be entertained

Willie Miller · 20-08-2006, 11:24

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Originally Posted by pipinfort

definately agree with that one kipax, used in context its great for drumming (no pun intended lol) up atmosphere and works a treat.......................whereas inane constant banging is just plain annoying.

We've been telling Matt that for ages & he's slowly getting the message, remember he's just a young lad

zayno14 · 20-08-2006, 11:34

I agree Jase, even just a clap and a bit of encouragement from the main stand can make a difference if our winger skins their fullbacks, at the moment we don't have that but i'd also like to see it happen..

John_Timmins · 20-08-2006, 11:45

well cammys in there this monday so maybe he can start something!!

KIPAX · 20-08-2006, 11:52

To contradict everything... I do recall shotgun walking up and down in front of the main stand banging a (smaller less deafening) drum and the whole main stand joined in. So thats one up for a drum used correctly and the main stand

baldy · 20-08-2006, 11:54

Totally agree Jase, Im not asking anyone to sit in the main stand and start to sing and shout and bounce around, but a clap every now and then wouldnt go a miss would it?

Everybody knows when the fans sing, clap, (make a noise) the players get a lift, and we want FES a a place where away teams think "oh no not stanley again"

Just a clap Main Stand, A clap