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[KIPAX]

His looks like an accusation and yours looks like a threat... but somehow your in the right and he is in the wrong.. He is a fan who saw somehting hundreds of others saw and it looked dodgy... Your a chief steward for the club and have all but threatened someone on here.

You need to take a step back mate..


As for slanging match? errm we are mates.. this is a messageboard and where having a debate.... no slanging here unless your going to do it.. cus I aint

[KIPAX]

Group Hug

[ukcowboy]

Originally Posted by ukcowboy

Without getting into a slanging match with you Tony, I am afraid that the comments made by Bagpuss do read like an accusation and as such I stand by the general gist of my post.

I appreciate that I could have worded my post a little better in order for it not to read like a threat, so if thats how others see it, then I appologise.

Perhaps Bagpuss would like to take this oppotunity to explain what he/she meant by their comments?

How much more of a 'step back' would you like me to take?

[KIPAX]

Well you could stop writing in big red letters... its not playschool

[ukcowboy]

Originally Posted by KIPAX

Group Hug

LOL

[ukcowboy]

Originally Posted by KIPAX

Well you could stop writing in big red letters... its not playschool

I happen to like red!!...............So tough!

[Bagpuss]

Not for the first time I posted without thinking my post could be interpreted in another way, my apologies. What I was getting at was I wondered if the gate figure given for the York game was correct because I could see no way of a correct count when people where being let in through the gate and not the turnstiles. Kipax mentioned in an earlier post that a count was done fair enough but from an outsiders point of view it did look a bit suspect. I was in no way making an accusation that anyone was pocketing any gate money.
I think I better wear a disguise for the next home game, Jase can I borrow your new wig?

[maccawozzagod]

if I remember rightly quite a few people at the time thought the bouncers may have pocketed money, myself included. We hadn't long had them at the ground and then they were seen to be pocketing brass from an open gate.

Only a few days later we were informed by Mick Schultz that the gate was opened with his permission and had been monitored. End of accusation no problems from me or anybody else.

I thought at the time that the club had for years left themselves open to spurious accusation because we have always doubted the official gate given. We now have electrickery devices in place to monitor the turnstiles so there is no longer a problem there from me.

All is happy in the stanley wonderland again. Except fer t'roof

[ukcowboy]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Not for the first time I posted without thinking my post could be interpreted in another way, my apologies. What I was getting at was I wondered if the gate figure given for the York game was correct because I could see no way of a correct count when people where being let in through the gate and not the turnstiles. Kipax mentioned in an earlier post that a count was done fair enough but from an outsiders point of view it did look a bit suspect. I was in no way making an accusation that anyone was pocketing any gate money.
I think I better wear a disguise for the next home game, Jase can I borrow your new wig?

Thanks for that Bagpuss............hugs all round!!

[JEFF]

Originally Posted by maccawozzagod

I thought at the time that the club had for years left themselves open to spurious accusation because we have always doubted the official gate given. We now have electrickery devices in place to monitor the turnstiles so there is no longer a problem there from me.

All is happy in the stanley wonderland again. Except fer t'roof

But these electrickery devices only work when people come through the turnstiles. I thought that with all these new Football League rules and police safety measures everybody had to come through a turnstile so that the crowd was monitored in the police controll room. I don't think that we will go to another Football League ground where a gate is opened for people with the right money. We must be seen to be professional in everything we do.

[ukcowboy]

Originally Posted by JEFF

But these electrickery devices only work when people come through the turnstiles. I thought that with all these new Football League rules and police safety measures everybody had to come through a turnstile so that the crowd was monitored in the police controll room. I don't think that we will go to another Football League ground where a gate is opened for people with the right money. We must be seen to be professional in everything we do.

Forgive me Jeff, but I think you may have misunderstood, NO gate was open for taking the right monies only, however a turnstile was.......so the electrickery devices were working.

The only time (to my knowledge) that a GATE was opened was at the York game last season, before the new turnstile system was in place.

Hope this helps mate.

[Bagpuss]

Originally Posted by ukcowboy

......so the electrickery devices were working.

I've got to have one more say on this subject because it's bugging me. Are you 100% certain that the turnstile counters where working for the Blackburn game and for Saturdays game v Rochdale on the 2nd set of turnstiles at the Clayton End, the ones furthest from the clubhouse?

[KIPAX]

methinks bagpuss has an ace up his sleeve ?

[John_Timmins]

not that im 100% but the way mick shultz talked to me other night i thought that even if the electronical turnstyle counters arent working, then the manual one are there to back it up.

[ukcowboy]

Originally Posted by Bagpuss

I've got to have one more say on this subject because it's bugging me. Are you 100% certain that the turnstile counters where working for the Blackburn game and for Saturdays game v Rochdale on the 2nd set of turnstiles at the Clayton End, the ones furthest from the clubhouse?

To the very best of my knowledge yes, however JT's post is also correct, should the electrikery thing fail, then a manual counter/click is used.......ie each time someone enters the turnstile is counts via a mechanical device.

I cant state my life on it, but am 99.9% sure this is the case.