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26-08-2010, 19:01
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
Unbelievable...totally soddin' unbelievable. Why do we have the uncanny knack of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? Our greatest moment since the club was reformed and we manage to turn it into a Google Page Ranking disaster. Make no mistake, Jase is one of the most invaluable off-field assets this club has. He's not done it on his own but he's the bloke who has instigated the transformation of the Clayton End into an exciting, atmospheric place to be...a place that has attracted lots of young 'uns who might otherwise have gone to Ewood or the Turf. Take that away and all you'll be left with is a stretch of half-empty terracing, populated by moaning old gits like me!
So, Mr Heys, we've been told that you've "stepped up to the plate". I, therefore, suggest that you act decisively to embark on an urgent damage limitation exercise immediately!
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26-08-2010, 19:08
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
I have been through this thread and it saddened me what happened. I take it that the stewards were not the only ones shipped in for the game but the polices as well. If both police and stewards had been briefed they would have known there would be nothing more sinister than a bit of exuberance.I believe like others that there was some person or persons that over reacted and just enflamed everything. The police seem to have behaved worse than any hooligans around but can hide behind the badge and the "boys club" when it goes wrong.
From what I have read outwith here the police have already justified their actions with no input from those who witnessed the mayhem.
Questions;
Where did the extra stewards come from?
Where did the extra police come from?
What imput did the local police get on this?
Were the local police just "sidelined" as not being up to the job?
Was there any plan in place if things got rowdy apart from wade in weapons drawn?
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26-08-2010, 19:13
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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Where did the extra police come from?
What imput did the local police get on this?
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I don't think the club have any say on what policing is required, the powers that be in Hutton decide how to justify their waste of taxpayers money.
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26-08-2010, 19:14
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
I have be told that both rob heys and dave o neil will be doing statements for jase in court
time to give em break after all they are backing jase
as for mick hmmmmmmmm
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26-08-2010, 19:14
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
Also the plod were taking photographs during the second half towards the Ultras section of the Clayton End. Presumably to try and identify the roll throwers. Anybody who wants to make a freedom of information request may need the following
Criminal Records Guide - Police Records - ICO
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26-08-2010, 19:18
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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It is in the title, one of the biggest nights in our history and for it to end up like that, it was an utter disgrace.................
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Still cannot believe what went on!!!
We must do something about this!!!!!!!!
3 Year banning order?????????????
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26-08-2010, 19:24
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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I don't think the club have any say on what policing is required, the powers that be in Hutton decide how to justify their waste of taxpayers money.
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Dave the fact that it looks like no input was taken from the local plod shows a heap of arrogance and stupidity on the part of the Hutton desk jockeys. The way it was policed sounds like an Old firm match. There should be an inquiry at all levels after this.
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26-08-2010, 19:27
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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Dave the fact that it looks like no input was taken from the local plod shows a heap of arrogance and stupidity on the part of the Hutton desk jockeys. The way it was policed sounds like an Old firm match. There should be an inquiry at all levels after this.
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We are talking about a police force which polices a local derby as if both teams are involved in a nuclear war.
You get treated better for mugging a pensioner in Lancashire than being at a football match
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26-08-2010, 19:36
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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We are talking about a police force which polices a local derby as if both teams are involved in a nuclear war.
You get treated better for mugging a pensioner in Lancashire than being at a football match
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Seems very true on both points.
A footy match is there to be enjoyed by people. Not an excuse for the police to behave worse than animals. In a way I was lucky not to see the aftermath but it leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
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26-08-2010, 19:41
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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Still cannot believe what went on!!!
We must do something about this!!!!!!!!
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I'm with you, I'm steaming, I've just gone through Skys coverage of the game and you can see stewards running towards the Clayton End when they are discussing the match after fulltime, I've also found video of the chief steward who appeared to be responsible for getting police involved in the first place, anyone know if you can get video off Sky+?
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26-08-2010, 19:41
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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I don't think the club have any say on what policing is required, the powers that be in Hutton decide how to justify their waste of taxpayers money.
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The thing is Dave with the Plod and policing footy matches, they have full control on numbers and the club DO have to pay for the policing, or they'll withdraw and matches will be cancelled, this is what happened with Dave Whelan down at Wigan a couple of years ago, they threatened to withdraw the safety certificate for matches
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26-08-2010, 19:47
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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I'm with you, I'm steaming, I've just gone through Skys coverage of the game and you can see stewards running towards the Clayton End when they are discussing the match after fulltime, I've also found video of the chief steward who appeared to be responsible for getting police involved in the first place, anyone know if you can get video off Sky+?
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sky+ to pc - Sky+ - Digital Spy Forums
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26-08-2010, 19:51
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
Police are "not very nice people".
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26-08-2010, 19:54
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
ha ha @ SamF
Bagpuss, if you manage to get a copy off your Sky, is there any chance of an extra?
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26-08-2010, 19:55
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Re: FANs not criminals!!!!
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ha ha @ SamF
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That quick it doesn't even show he edited it
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