Fearon

[K.S.H]

Is it time for Fearon to have a start - what do you think

[K.S.H]

4 - 2 at the min, reminding me of last night, hope it doesn't get to 8 - 2

[Tin Monkey]

Fearon isn't the answer to the problem. He's a decent shot-stopper, but any 'keeper above the North West Counties is one of those.

[shakermaker]

Don't think it's his time yet. Besides a change of keeper won't solve anything.
The problem we have is the fact that our two fit 'keepers and one returning from long-term injury have no specific training regime from a designated goalkeeping coach.

Very tinpot.

[maccawozzagod]

I see it more a case of give him the experience. He'd learn a lot coming into a team that is down on morale. Give the lad his debut or its pointless him being here.

Whatever you think of Dunbavin he has conceded 13 goals in 3 games and he should be taking charge of the area and his defence and making things happen. He's a good lad and looked thoroughly depressed last night as he did at Stockport. Thats not the mindset he needs to be in.

[maccawozzagod]

Originally Posted by shakermaker

Very tinpot.

if it was a tin pot the handle would probably fall off

[shakermaker]

I don't think it's right to demand Bavs to be sidelened for conceding a vast number of goals - when his training regime has been swept from under his feet! Blaming Bavs for his mistakes since Willcock left would be like blaming strikers for not scoring when they're not allowed to have shooting practice.

We all saw the improvement in Bavs' game on the appointment of Willcock. The buck stops with whomever wanted Willcock out.

[Oldgobbin]

No amount of coaching would turn Bavs into a good keeper. He's a half-decent shot stopper and that's as far as it goes. Look at his past record - it speaks for itself - and I'm sure I'm not alone in nearly having kittens every time our opponents get a corner - that hasn't changed since his disastrous extended spell last year. He needs to be replaced urgently - if not by Fearon then by someone on an emergency loan until Kenny comes back>

[shakermaker]

Originally Posted by Oldgobbin

No amount of coaching would turn Bavs into a good keeper. He's a half-decent shot stopper and that's as far as it goes. Look at his past record - it speaks for itself - and I'm sure I'm not alone in nearly having kittens every time our opponents get a corner - that hasn't changed since his disastrous extended spell last year. He needs to be replaced urgently - if not by Fearon then by someone on an emergency loan until Kenny comes back>

You really didn't notice any improvement whatsoever in Bavs' performances with Willcock as coach? He has had some nothing short of outstanding games for us this season in my opinion.

[Grimps]

Originally Posted by K.S.H

Is it time for Fearon to have a start - what do you think

yes let him have a game why have him on bench not 2 wom it 4 kenny

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by shakermaker

You really didn't notice any improvement whatsoever in Bavs' performances with Willcock as coach? He has had some nothing short of outstanding games for us this season in my opinion.

Even if Wilcock had stayed could Bavs improve any more ( I'm not judging him because I don't see him play very often ). Wilcock only left a few weeks ago so I wouldn't think Bavs has forgotten what he has been coached so far. The only thing I could think that would be different week to week would be analysing the previous game and picking out the faults.

In general most keepers when they have a few years experience tend not to improve on a particular aspect of their game no matter how long they play, therefore they make the same mistakes game after game. Even the England keepers are recognised as having various shortcomings and never seem to improve on them.

I don't know the set up but I would have thought a full time defensive coach with perhaps a one day a week keeping coach would be better. After all the keeper is part of the defense and they should operate as a unit.

[dabeast]

definately time to give the lad the experience. taking into account the improvements to bav's game with willcock (and decline in confidence since his departure), dunbavin still does not command the area and his distribution (kicking to mullers) is still poor. fearon would at least mix it up a bit and maybe throw it out our kick more accurately and its got to be worth the gamble. even if none of the goals in the last few games were the keepers fault (ie the defence were to blame) there is probably still nothing to lose. fearon has a brighter future at stanley. give him a chance

[sparkie]

the point to be made about Wilcock or indeed Dibs and any goalkeeping coach is that you aren't just there to teach them technique and and help them improve as players, you're there to work on their mindset and confidence and the whole psychology of it all. I know this sounds utter b*****ks but goalies are a completely different breed to other footballers, you have to have a certain amount of imbalance of the mind, (I should know!!!) it's what enables you to make that split second decision to throw yourself headfirst at someones feet and not think that you have every chance of getting your head booted to third bloke on the left standing 6 rows back behind the goal, who'll probably drop it anyway!!! A goalie coach understands this and keeps the mind in the right state of imbalance, so as to produce the best possible performance from the goalie.

Both Willcock and Dibs made great strides with bavs and his mental readiness for games, however Bavs is one of those goalies that needs the coach to talk things through with to regain his equilibrium and build him up for the next game. Neither Coley or Jimmy can offer this as they have no idea what its like to be a goalkeeper in pressure situations, when it's down to just you, and no-one else as to what happens next. Its hard on the mind.

As far as Fearo goes when his time does come, be it saturday against Brentford or next season, I have every faith in him to perform to his absolute best, and do us and the team proud. But he will also be missing not having a goalkeeping coach as he is still learning as a goalie and needs someone to guide him on the way forward.

[dabeast]

if bavs needs so much mental support and cant use the fans to motivate himself for games without someone to hold his hand then it must be time to replace him.

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by sparkie

you have to have a certain amount of imbalance of the mind, (I should know!!!)

Fair comment