Former Players!

[andyd]

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh

Club can do a contract where the option is in their favour;
e.g offer a 1 year guaranteed contract plus an extra year at end of it at clubs discretion if they want to keep the player or not. (similar to what we've got on Callum Johnson, offer 2 and a half year deal when he signed in Jan 2018 with an extra year option in clubs favour) We obviously want to keep Callum, so will activate the extra year so he is still under contract. If we didn't want to keep him, we wouldnt activate the year option.

Thanks Josh wasn't sure about options I believe Hughes has one but who remaining haven't an option and contract running down not sure.

[Twenty Eight]

Specifically Clark and Conneely.
Their contracts expire 30 June 2020.
The club can offer them a new contract and its the players decision whether they sign or reject.
The Club may choose not to make an offer at all.
In theory they have been entitled to speak to other clubs since January.
They can still reject the contact and not sign for anyone else so effectively unemployed.
Their final pay day is end of July.
All this talk about reduced contracts is just that.
There isn't a hope in my opinion of either player signing a contact to earn less and despite pessimism being expressed about football in general I would guarantee that both players would get offers elsewhere at least equivalent to their current deal.
The club also has to consider how to replace them and at what cost.

[andyd]

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

Specifically Clark and Conneely.
Their contracts expire 30 June 2020.
The club can offer them a new contract and its the players decision whether they sign or reject.
The Club may choose not to make an offer at all.
In theory they have been entitled to speak to other clubs since January.
They can still reject the contact and not sign for anyone else so effectively unemployed.
Their final pay day is end of July.
All this talk about reduced contracts is just that.
There isn't a hope in my opinion of either player signing a contact to earn less and despite pessimism being expressed about football in general I would guarantee that both players would get offers elsewhere at least equivalent to their current deal.
The club also has to consider how to replace them and at what cost.

Thanks for that twenty eight would be great if both signed on but in my opinion don't think they will as don't think the club will be improving offers as I think they would have done by now.

[StanleyJosh]

Originally Posted by andyd

Thanks for that twenty eight would be great if both signed on but in my opinion don't think they will as don't think the club will be improving offers as I think they would have done by now.

I reckon 1 will be staying and 1 won't.

[andyd]

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh

I reckon 1 will be staying and 1 won't.

So if one stays are you saying they will accept what's on offer and presumably nothing better from elsewhere?

[Twenty Eight]

Originally Posted by andyd

Thanks for that twenty eight would be great if both signed on but in my opinion don't think they will as don't think the club will be improving offers as I think they would have done by now.

Who says it needs to be an improvement ?

[Twenty Eight]

Originally Posted by andyd

So if one stays are you saying they will accept what's on offer and presumably nothing better from elsewhere?

You are making assumptions the offer if one is made will be less than the current deal. How do you know if other offers (if they exist) are improvements ?

What will be, will be.

[andyd]

Originally Posted by Twenty Eight

You are making assumptions the offer if one is made will be less than the current deal. How do you know if other offers (if they exist) are improvements ?

What will be, will be.

I don't know what is going on this is a forum for fans thoughts and especially in these times it's been a scource of breaking tedious days up, just my opinion usually in life people naturally go for pay increases wouldn't have thought footballers any different, looking from the outside looking in I think they have been offered something and they have until June 30th to decide.

[StanleyJosh]

Originally Posted by andyd

So if one stays are you saying they will accept what's on offer and presumably nothing better from elsewhere?

Nope. Didn't say that.
I know the player involved. If he gets offered more money elsewhere, would he want to uproot his family? Not quite as black and white as just moving for more money, no matter what people seem to think.
Also consider his life after football. What does he want to do, where does he want to be. Luckily, the player is very switched on with things like that.

[Twenty Eight]

He's from good stock that's why Josh hahaha !

[andyd]

Originally Posted by StanleyJosh

Nope. Didn't say that.
I know the player involved. If he gets offered more money elsewhere, would he want to uproot his family? Not quite as black and white as just moving for more money, no matter what people seem to think.
Also consider his life after football. What does he want to do, where does he want to be. Luckily, the player is very switched on with things like that.

Seeing as we have only seen the released list and not the retained list all may have signed we will find out soon, like I said wether about money or not you sign or you don't.

[cashman]

as long as players do what they regard as best for their families is all that counts to me,will be sorry to see some go no doubt, but thats the way things have panned out.

[StanleyJosh]

Originally Posted by andyd

Seeing as we have only seen the released list and not the retained list all may have signed we will find out soon, like I said wether about money or not you sign or you don't.

Again not quite as simple and straightforward as that Andy.
A player could be offered a deal and told they will be a squad player.
That player may take less money elsewhere to be a more regular starter etc.

I would put my house on at least a few of the ones not released leaving before a new season start.

[cashman]

i reckon josh is spot on wi that.

[Twenty Eight]

It's a funny old world is football.
Was only chatting to Keith Hill and Flicker about 3 weeks ago and their plans for when the season starts .......... both no longer there plus CEO gone as well.