Friday Night Football Has It Worked?

[cmonstanley]

we,ll just have to keep the novelty going and see how long it lasts .im for one are enjoying it even went to the clubhouse on friday for the first time in 3 years
im easily fooled:Banan e25:roscoe roscoe roscoe ...on the head

[Oggy]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

other words we have stopped the rot for this season on attendancesif we keep playing on a friday night ,plus a bonus there seems to be lot more youngster that can only be good for the club...if you have beenwatching stanley since 1958 or before you could be useful for the osc exhibition with memories you have ,like we could have a part with 1950s memorabilia with your voice telling tales about stanley in the 50sjust an idea

Yes, probably helped stop rot, on paper, but the fact we're 2,000 down on same games from last season means it needs a deeper analysis. Hopefully the club is weighing all the angles up, doubt if there will be any more this season, until Daggers in April. Be a bit nippy from now on, plus, it would be nice to know what affect it has on travelling support, and this is an important consideration.

I'm old enough to have been watching Stanley in the fifties, but lived where football was in everybody's blood, and went every Saturday, looking forward to tales of Stanley's last 50 years though.

When you look at attendances across League 2 the big losers are Lincoln, Wrexham and Brentford for obvious reasons. While MK Dons, Bradford and Morecambe are big gainers for various reasons, (good luck to Morecambe, btw). The oddity is probably Hereford who are more successful this year but 250 down on average.

It's a mixed bag, if Stanley were to decide on more Friday night games next year, what effect would it have on season ticket sales? Etc. etc.

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[rishton]

I know a couple of people who are season tickets holders who would not renew their season tickets if they started doing more friday nights /(one of them missed both games due to friday nights and the other one missed the macclesfield game)

Originally Posted by Oggy

Yes, probably helped stop rot, on paper, but the fact we're 2,000 down on same games from last season means it needs a deeper analysis. Hopefully the club is weighing all the angles up, doubt if there will be any more this season, until Daggers in April. Be a bit nippy from now on, plus, it would be nice to know what affect it has on travelling support, and this is an important consideration.

I'm old enough to have been watching Stanley in the fifties, but lived where football was in everybody's blood, and went every Saturday, looking forward to tales of Stanley's last 50 years though.

When you look at attendances across League 2 the big losers are Lincoln, Wrexham and Brentford for obvious reasons. While MK Dons, Bradford and Morecambe are big gainers for various reasons, (good luck to Morecambe, btw). The oddity is probably Hereford who are more successful this year but 250 down on average.

It's a mixed bag, if Stanley were to decide on more Friday night games next year, what effect would it have on season ticket sales? Etc. etc.

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[JEFF]

Originally Posted by Oggy

Crowds were down 867 and 1220 on corresponding figure last season, figures do not lie, but it depends which figures you pick.

Macclesfield good, Wrexham bad. On the whole I don't like Friday night games, but the thing that filled me with dread was Stanley tried it, with some success, in 1958.

You must remember that Macclesfield put on free coaches last season and brought about eight coaches, this year there was one coach and a mini bus. I think there have been more Stanley fans attending on Friday nights but less away fans, but we will find that most of the away clubs wil bring fewer this season than than they did last season.

[Oggy]

Originally Posted by JEFF

You must remember that Macclesfield put on free coaches last season and brought about eight coaches, this year there was one coach and a mini bus. I think there have been more Stanley fans attending on Friday nights but less away fans, but we will find that most of the away clubs wil bring fewer this season than than they did last season.

Yes, and Macclesfield was a big game for both clubs last year. Wrexham was a Tuesday night game last year, but down for a Friday, but then Wrexham fans are staying away in droves. There's so many variables it's difficult to develop a clear picture, but wouldn't like the club to get carried away with the slight upturn.

Thought the roof was a good point, so let's see what develops on the next Saturday games, Notts County, Rotherham and Rochdale. Being in or around the play off zone might help as well, but I like the way Wynonie put it, "...which just goes to show, I suppose, that Friday nights are all well and good...until the novelty wears off."

Then again, if Beer and Curry sales are up ......... and so on.

[cmonstanley]

but there is a drop in most league attendances due to economic circumstances a lot of people have been cutting back in spending due to interest rate rises and instability due to northern rock and other global issues .mostly the first thing is leisure spending is cut back and a lot of league clubs are feeling the pinch ...thats why i think our friday nights are successful because attendances re rising and we are increasing the stanley fanbase.if we get a lot more home supporters we dont need to worry about the lesser supported away teams when they come to the fes and the big away supprted team will be a bonus and we wont need to rely on them to boost attendances it not just about getting a quick buck off away supporters its about building a sound and reliable income...

[lancsdave]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

it not just about getting a quick buck off away supporters its about building a sound and reliable income...

You're going to ruin your reputation if you keep saying sensible things like this

[Wynonie Harris]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

but there is a drop in most league attendances due to economic circumstances a lot of people have been cutting back in spending due to interest rate rises and instability due to northern rock and other global issues .mostly the first thing is leisure spending is cut back and a lot of league clubs are feeling the pinch ...thats why i think our friday nights are successful because attendances re rising and we are increasing the stanley fanbase.if we get a lot more home supporters we dont need to worry about the lesser supported away teams when they come to the fes and the big away supprted team will be a bonus and we wont need to rely on them to boost attendances it not just about getting a quick buck off away supporters its about building a sound and reliable income...

I've told you before about this, Bananaman. Getting a grown-up to write your posts for you is not on!!

[Oggy]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

but there is a drop in most league attendances ...

It's just not true, as I've already mentioned. Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Morecambe, MK Dons and Bradford are all up, on average, by 539, 991, 1716, 2,623 and 5,023 respectively, (sorry these figures are a week or so old).

Where it gets us is another matter, I'd like to think the club has got some partial solution out of the experiment. It'll probably be a mixed bag in future years, depending on fixture list.

[Chimer]

Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

I've told you before about this, Bananaman. Getting a grown-up to write your posts for you is not on!!

But if you do, please get one who knows about using commas .... it takes me 5 mins to get my breath back after reading one of your posts

[Redraine]

Originally Posted by Chimer

But if you do, please get one who knows about using commas .... it takes me 5 mins to get my breath back after reading one of your posts

It really gives me a headache and I have to give up after a few words!
Please try to make them more readable. Even just putting a space between your thoughts would help if you can't manage punctuation.

[maccawozzagod]

as far as crowds are concerned you can never say for certain what has affected crowds positively or negatively, but in our case we saw larger numbers of away fans last season than we will this because of the name and the 'never been there before' factor. It's not just us but the same with most grounds. When we have a larger away end, covered, seats, a proper bar, a proper canteen or two, proper parking, better toilets, a more visitable town etc etc we will never see large numbers repeatedly coming back, just the hardcore.

Home fans will start to come back slowly and the job is trying to keep em here. The roof will play a large part in that as will the added atmosphere that that brings. The 'bar' will also play some part in that as well. As tinpot as it might be it is still an alcohol outlet and that will retain a few every week that see drink as an integral part of football, which it is.

Hopefully the football will also help to bring in the crowds, we lost dismally against Wrexham but the crowd was only slightly down against Macc even though they brought less fans. So surely, after a home defeat, the next game home fans were up?

Things are on the rise people, just be glad we were there first!

[cmonstanley]

Originally Posted by Oggy

It's just not true, as I've already mentioned. Rochdale, Shrewsbury, Morecambe, MK Dons and Bradford are all up, on average, by 539, 991, 1716, 2,623 and 5,023 respectively, (sorry these figures are a week or so old).

Where it gets us is another matter, I'd like to think the club has got some partial solution out of the experiment. It'll probably be a mixed bag in future years, depending on fixture list.

but these club have reduced entry fees like bradford their entrance fees have been gradually decreasing as they fall down the leagues ,mk dons are in the middle of a huge town where there has been a huge population explosion ,morcambe have just arrived in the league so there is time for their attendances to even out, shewsbury have just moved to a new staduim,rochdale have special deals for low incomes the difference is we are building our support they are clinging on to theirs..the futures bright the futures stanley

[Oggy]

I agree with the sentiment, just find it more wishful thinking than a logical arguement.

Here's to a bright future, anyway.

[lancsdave]

MK Dons and Bradford are all up

Can you count franchises when it comes to getting a fan base. They could move out of town at a moments notice and nobody would really give a damn. They are lucky it's a grot hole in the middle of nowhere with little competition for pulling in the casual fan.