Hartlepool match thread (H) - Page 2

Lord Didsbury · 02-01-2017, 17:56

Blimey Chris - funny how people see matches differently. Reckon I disagree with pretty much everything you've written. E.g., Ref was reasonable in my opinion.

Would like to see Chapman come off his line more - if that's your complaint about keeping?

Chrisr · 02-01-2017, 18:10

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Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

Blimey Chris - funny how people see matches differently. Reckon I disagree with pretty much everything you've written. E.g., Ref was reasonable in my opinion.

Would like to see Chapman come off his line more - if that's your complaint about keeping?

I don't know what angle you saw the game from but the ref and liner on our patch were terrible. The decisions they gave against us in the first half were just downright bad. McConnville booking was shocking, He got the whole of the ball and then both players came together, No one claimed a foul, The linesman changed his mind. I am afraid Chapman is not the keeper he was and was responsible for not commanding his area much better for a keeper his size. He should have cleared the lines for the second goal. He could have easily put the ball out of play. The problem is we should never have been under so much pressure at that point in the match. we just backed off everything. On the Bright side the Don did have a decent game.

cashman · 02-01-2017, 18:11

Have to disagree also with chris, the ref did try to keep the game flowing, made a couple of bad ricks though, Pools 2nd goal the ball should NEVER have been crossed but super sean declined to put the tackle in.

the fact he didn't dont detract from poor defending.

Lord Stiffupperlip · 02-01-2017, 18:17

Don't know whether to laugh or cry?
Laugh, because we scored two goals and cry because we conspired to throw away our lead twice and two precious points.
Their first equaliser was a pinpoint cross onto the head of their forward, no more than one yard from our goal line, while Chapman stood frozen to the spot.
He could and should have either gathered or punched the ball before it landed but his indecision cost us a goal.
Their second was another shambles by the defence, with Chapman again floundering on the deck.
Hartlepool were only average but respect to them for coming back twice to earn a draw.
This season has proved there are no poor teams in league two and we are no better than any of them.
The only good thing you can say about today is that we didn't lose.

Chrisr · 02-01-2017, 18:32

The keeper parried for the second goal instead of holding or pushing over the bar. The ref allowed some awful fouls, He booked our players for nothing more than a decent tackle. yet it took two rough fouls on Jonno before he gave a yellow. he blew up inappropriately for fouls. He was in two minds whether to give the blatant penalty against Matty Pearson, He looked to the liner and who looked away and then awarded the penalty. The linesman on our side missed more offsides than were debatable. The officials were poor I am not the only one in the main stand who saw that. I don't usually berate Officials but we do seem to get more than our fair share of poor ones, maybe we are a secret training ground for them. But you are right the position we allowed ourselves to be put in is the problem.

Thin Monkey · 02-01-2017, 18:49

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Originally Posted by cashman

Have to disagree also with chris, the ref did try to keep the game flowing, made a couple of bad ricks though, Pools 2nd goal the ball should NEVER have been crossed but super sean declined to put the tackle in.

the fact he didn't dont detract from poor defending.

Just goes to show how bad a player McConville is. He was to blame for a goal conceded in the 88th minute when he'd been subbed on 70mins.

yonmon · 02-01-2017, 19:01

Once again THAT thought crossed my mind as I left the Crown at 5.00 pm....not one which I particularly enjoyed at the time and one that has niggles at me since !.
This being that watching the teams efforts for 90 + minutes, they are on today's showing, as a unit, just not good enough to rank as a League team !.
Now I know that this evaluation will receive a broadside or two from those whose opinions I respect, and perhaps as a simple statement which contains no analysis whatsoever, it might deserve them !....AND I do hope that this feeling is totally unfounded, but there it is !.

My wish is that at the end of next Saturday's Cup clash, I will have to reappraise my opinion,
I hope so !...and I am keeping the faith...just !.

QUO VADIS STANLEY ?.

chevyfire · 02-01-2017, 19:21

First half fairly even although we looked more likely to score than of late, second we got joy down the right-hand side (O'Sullivan and Pearson) and looked dangerous. After our first goal they penned us in for a few minutes got their goal. Felt keeper could of claimed the looping cross for goal. It felt it should have been stopped somehow! The second equaliser felt like luck was against us with the free kick given on Hughes. From Clayton end can see why Sean was booked as he appeared to jump into the tackle. We benefitted from people getting up to use kee's knock downs.

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AccyMad · 02-01-2017, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Lord Didsbury

Ggrrrr .. would like to see the decision against Hughes for the second goal. Was he pushed?
I like Hughes but he does seem to be at fault for a lot of crucial goals. Can't work out whether he is unlucky or a liability?

Anyway, team played half decent. Created more chances and skirmishes I thought.

Hughes was pushed, but the ref chose to only see that as a result of said push our lad touched the ball with his hand hence the free kick that should never have been given resulted in their equaliser - not that it should've been a surprise, the ref had a nightmare game, don't think he was biased just inept!

andyd · 02-01-2017, 19:29

[QUOTE=yonmon;1184296]Once again THAT thought crossed my mind as I left the Crown at 5.00 pm....not one which I particularly enjoyed at the time and one that has niggles at me since !.
This being that watching the teams efforts for 90 + minutes, they are on today's showing, as a unit, just not good enough to rank as a League team !.
Now I know that this evaluation will receive a broadside or two from those whose opinions I respect, and perhaps as a simple statement which contains no analysis whatsoever, it might deserve them !....AND I do hope that this feeling is totally unfounded, but there it is !.

My wish is that at the end of next Saturday's Cup clash, I will have to reappraise my opinion,
I hope so !...and I am keeping the faith...just !.

QUO VADIS STANLEY ?.[/QUOT

I have to agree with you today we were 2 poor sides and we go in front twice and then totally lose all our shape and just can,t defend Coleman has a big job on if he is to bring any quality in during the window because we just have,nt replaced the quality that left in the summer, just hope their are 2 sides poorer than us and we manage to stay up because it,s going to be a long struggle you have got to win your home games but we just don,t look like can but 2017 is a New year let,s hope we see some improvement.

shakermaker · 02-01-2017, 19:40

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Originally Posted by Thin Monkey

Just goes to show how bad a player McConville is. He was to blame for a goal conceded in the 88th minute when he'd been subbed on 70mins.

😂

This forum in a nutshell.

cashman · 02-01-2017, 19:57

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

😂

This forum in a nutshell.

I was wrong was referring to the first goal, but still everyone can't be as clever as you.

Crown Grounder · 02-01-2017, 20:04

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

😂

This forum in a nutshell.

Very cruel Shaker......but...Explains why you don't post on here very often anymore. As for the game......... Stanley continue to be good until the final third......As to league 2 this year, it's the poorest standard I can remember in recent years. Carlisle probably best of a bad bunch. The best footballing side are Portsmouth who continue to under perform against the poor sides they play each week. I think there are at least 2 poorer sides than Stanley this year, but our inability to convert chances is my biggest worry and surely our bad luck can't go on forever?

Preston Red · 02-01-2017, 20:26

Went to the game today, after an absence due to work commitments and took my very knowledgeable footballing son, well he's far brighter than his Dad! We both thought Stanley played well although the goal keeper does worry me due to his indecision, were far better than Hartlepool and deserved to win. Thought the ref made a mistake which cost the Hartlepool equaliser. Overall I think we will be ok

st06nc2 · 02-01-2017, 20:48

Speaking of keepers anyone know where parish has disappeared too?