Ilyas speaks .....

[Wynonie Harris]

Certainly, some food for thought there...thanks for keeping us in the picture as much as possible, Ilyas.

[cashman]

ta fer the update Ilyas, interesting it confirms (to me anyway) the reason i think Whalley will not meet or talk with ya.

[ukcowboy]

Mr Khan, thank you again for being so forthright and quick with your reply, it seems that my suspicions were somewhat correct,such a shame.

I,and Im sure many others, await further developments in this sorry affair.

Again thank you.

[Tin Monkey]

Whilst I'm in no position to judge anyone, I do think that we need to be aware that we're only getting one side of a multi-sided story here.

I'm not casting assertions, but none of us are in full possession of the whole story and I think we need to be aware of that.

[VALAIRIAN]

Originally Posted by cashman

ta fer the update Ilyas, interesting it confirms (to me anyway) the reason i think Whalley will not meet or talk with ya.

What (If it is possible to say ) does it confirm to you Cashy ??

[lindsay ormerod]

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

Whilst I'm in no position to judge anyone, I do think that we need to be aware that we're only getting one side of a multi-sided story here.

I'm not casting assertions, but none of us are in full possession of the whole story and I think we need to be aware of that.

I agree with you TM , that we are presented with only one set of facts, but since we are getting little or no info from the Club it doesn't exactly cast them in a good light. I would repeat my assertion that Mr Khan is a good and trustworthy man who would be a fantastic benefactor to the club, it's a tragedy that the powers that be can't bring themselves to at least sit down and talk to the man!

[cashman]

Originally Posted by VALAIRIAN

What (If it is possible to say ) does it confirm to you Cashy ??

think its best left valairian. but i know fer fact i am not alone in my thoughts.

[VALAIRIAN]

Originally Posted by cashman

think its best left valairian. but i know fer fact i am not alone in my thoughts.

Fair enough Cashy I respect your thoughts.....

[sparkie]

Originally Posted by shakermaker

It's my understanding that as long as we offer the players new contracts, we are owed compensation if they decide to join another club.

Surely that can't be right because what if the players do not agree with it i would of thought they would have to sign before we get compensation

It doesn't matter if the players reject the contract.
As long as we offer the players new contracts, the club is due compensation if the players decide to join another club.

I think FA rules regarding the movement of any player under the age of 24 says that should a player be offered a new contract with his club at the end of a previous contract, then any club wishing to sign that player will then be eligable to pay compensation to his former club.

so say one of our first year pros (chris, bobby etc.) gets offered a contract by another team, that team will have to pay us compensation providing we have offered that player a contract.


Or at least thats my understanding of the situation!!!!

[yerself]

Have a read, it's all on the FA website.

(j) Agreements Between Club & Players3
(i) Clubs must enter into a written contract of employment with their Players on the
relevant form approved by The Association, known as a “Form of Agreement”
(Rule C1), with or without an option. Such contracts must clearly indicate all the
terms and conditions of employment, be of stated duration and signed at the
same time as a relevant registration Form “G” (in such form as shall be published
by The Association from time to time). A copy of the contract of employment
must be handed to the Player at the time of signing both documents. Contracts of
employment signed by Players who are under the age of 18 at the time of signing
must also be signed by a parent or guardian.
(ii) There shall be no right to a compensation or transfer fee by the previous Club of
a Player who has attained the age of 24 years on or before 30th June and whose
contract with that Club has expired. If a Club wishes to offer re-engagement to a
Player or exercise an option contained in the agreement the following practice
shall prevail.
(iii) Within 7 days of the first Saturday in May, or the date of the last competitive
Match of the Club’s first team, whichever is the later, the Club must give notice in
writing to the Player indicating that either the Club offers a re-engagement or, if
appropriate, exercises any option contained in the agreement.
(iv) If the notice offers re-engagement it must specify the period which the Club is
prepared to agree and the terms and conditions to apply, which must be the same
or not less favourable overall than those which applied during the initial period of
employment – or the option period (if applicable).
(v) The Player must notify in writing the Club holding the registration within 28 days
of receipt of the said notice whether or not the offer of re-engagement is
accepted.
(vi) If the offer is rejected the Player is immediately free to negotiate with another
Club.
(vii) If the Player does not reply in writing to the offer of re-engagement then at the
expiry of a period of 28 days, the Player is free to negotiate with another Club.
(viii) In either of the instances as set out in Rules C1(j)(vi) and (vii) above, the Club
holding the Player’s registration has the right to receive compensation. The
Player’s registration for the new Club will not be accepted until such time as the
Club has confirmed in writing to The Association that it will negotiate a
compensation fee with the former Club failing which it will abide by any decision
taken by an appeal committee comprising those persons pursuant to Rule
C1(j)(xii) (a “League Appeals Committee”).
(ix) An existing agreement shall continue and have full force and effect between the
parties on the terms and conditions as those pertaining prior to the expiration of
the initial period of employment, or the option period if appropriate, and the
Player will continue to train and play as instructed by the Club until 31st August,
or the date on which the Player registers for another Club, whichever is the
sooner.
(x) In the event of the Player continuing to play for the Club after the 31st August, a
week-to-week agreement must be completed and submitted to The Association
under which the Player will continue to be paid in accordance with the terms of
the existing agreement.

[mab]

yep that about somes it up for me

[Tin Monkey]

Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

I agree with you TM , that we are presented with only one set of facts, but since we are getting little or no info from the Club it doesn't exactly cast them in a good light.

Sometimes, saying nothing is the right thing. Sometimes it's better to say nothing, rather than splashing it all over the internet and the (local) media.

Just my opinion of course

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Tin Monkey

Sometimes, saying nothing is the right thing. Sometimes it's better to say nothing, rather than splashing it all over the internet and the (local) media.

Just my opinion of course

i agree it is, many fans are concerned about the clubs position at the moment, and to disregard a guy with dosh, i fail to see how "Silence Is Golden" in this instance T.M.

[ukcowboy]

Bump, I feel this thread shouldnt be allowed to slip off the front page

[Wynonie Harris]

Just bumping this back up and will continue to do so until the club gives a sensible answer as to why they are ignoring a well-intentioned, lifelong fan who wants to put money in.