James Beattie - Do the Honourable Thing - Page 3

AccyMad · 05-10-2013, 16:25

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Originally Posted by DAV007

All of our managers over the past year 7/8 years in the football league have had far worse injury lists than Beattie has had.
Your making excuses.

Not excuses, genuine reasons - at the end of the day football is all about opinions & everyone is entitled to theirs, even those who think that their opinion is the only one that is right & the only one that matters.

DAV007 · 05-10-2013, 16:36

Its also a fact.

Another fact, we are already 9 points adrift after 10 games, drastic change required.

DAV007 · 05-10-2013, 16:45

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Originally Posted by shakermaker

There's no doubt that John Coleman is a better manager than James Beattie. That's a fact and James himself may well admit it.

Calling for heads or for Beattie to fall on his sword is a different matter. It's disrespectful and not becoming for a club like ours. Blackburn maybe, but not us.

What your really saying is ' I dont like your opinion, so I will try and discredit your opinion by taking what I perceive to be the moral high ground'.

Call a spade a spade, call a manager who has accumulate 2 points in 10 league games (with no proven track record) incapable of doing the job.

We will soon run out of time to turn it around, now is the time for James to be honest with himself and stand aside. He has to do whats right for the club

jenglish · 05-10-2013, 16:45

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Originally Posted by winstanley asfc

Maybe James Beattie will one day become a successful manager or assistant manager,but at a club that can afford to give him money to spend. It would be no disgrace for him to resign. His first attempt at football management wont be seen as a black mark on his cv as the football world expects any Stanley manager to be unsuccessful!

BBC Sport - James Beattie backs Accrington Stanley to end 'losing habit'

He says he's had the backing, he sounds worryingly like Steve Kean. Stick your head in a bucket and hope for the best.

Mr Matthew · 05-10-2013, 17:11

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Originally Posted by madkev

Nice guys finish last

Says who, I'm a nice guy whose doing pretty damn well in his career.

Bull hockey

st06nc2 · 05-10-2013, 17:39

Maybe JB would be better as a coach under JC till he gets more experience

andyd · 05-10-2013, 18:13

If James was to go and Coley came back with Jimmy if he wanted to leave his nice job at Port Vale would you give them 10 games Davoo. Lets get a gip Cook ran off followed by Leam we need a period of stability and let the club decide who is in charge while James is here lets get behind him and lets hope for a change on the green stuff.

DAV007 · 05-10-2013, 18:18

Difference is coley and cook and leam to an extent are proven, we have seen nothing under beattie that suggests anything other than Welling away next season.

Div3North · 05-10-2013, 18:26

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Difference is coley and cook and leam to an extent are proven .......

WHAT? Leam is proven...? You orchestrated a campaign to get rid of him because - if I recall your position - he wasn't up to the job and with him we were doomed to inevitable relegation .......

Disingenuous!

DAV007 · 05-10-2013, 18:33

I agree but as some of the forum users pointed out during the awful run of results under Leam, he had shown enough in his first few games and in the defeats to suggest he had ability.
You cant say that about our 10 league games this season, there are no signs Beattie has the ability to turn it around.
If we dont act soon, the season could be over by November.

Plus Leam had the fortune to take over from Cook's decent start.
Beattie has lumbered us to the foot of the table.

cashman · 05-10-2013, 18:37

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Originally Posted by DAV007

Difference is coley and cook and leam to an extent are proven, we have seen nothing under beattie that suggests anything other than Welling away next season.

Oh yer moving? Good riddance. The results have been terrible so far, But if you aint seen signs he may be able to turn it round,then yeh aint been to many games of the 10.

But that fact has never kept yer big gob shut.

shakermaker · 05-10-2013, 18:38

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Originally Posted by DAV007

What your really saying is ' I dont like your opinion, so I will try and discredit your opinion by taking what I perceive to be the moral high ground'.

Call a spade a spade, call a manager who has accumulate 2 points in 10 league games (with no proven track record) incapable of doing the job.

We will soon run out of time to turn it around, now is the time for James to be honest with himself and stand aside. He has to do whats right for the club

You'd protest over an incorrectly priced mop in poundland, wouldn't you.

I've already said I don't think Beattie is up to it. But I'm not going to join in the call for his head because I think it's a childish facet of the modern game.

DAV007 · 05-10-2013, 20:21

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Originally Posted by cashman

Oh yer moving? Good riddance. The results have been terrible so far, But if you aint seen signs he may be able to turn it round,then yeh aint been to many games of the 10.

But that fact has never kept yer big gob shut.

Oh wise cashman, do shed some light on where the up turn in ability, tactics, etc is coming from?
Do share your wisdom and insight on which game you have seen the team go from relegation certainties to playoff hopefuls.
You are truly the king of Accyweb.

fc:stanley · 05-10-2013, 20:49

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fc:stanley · 05-10-2013, 20:52

I'm one person who has patience to give managers and players time but having followed the team home and away this season the performances don't deserve any result , we've not even had luck against us or dominated a game and missed chances we've just been 100% rubbish! He seems to have no tactics or no know how about managing a football league club!
He's no experience of management and as a player was also a journey man! On paper he should fail as a football manager at his first attempt and so do plenty of previous players but we cannot afford to gamble our clubs status with a man who is obviously not good enough! He also seems to have plenty of excuses after each game!
He's not good enough and neither is Joyce as captain can I add!

For me he has to go! I'm not bothered about Coleman but he would be a great person to bring back but we need some experienced! I can't see us picking any results up! The club and the team need a change!]I'm one person who has patience to give managers and players time but having followed the team home and away this season the performances don't deserve any result , we've not even had luck against us or dominated a game and missed chances we've just been 100% rubbish! He seems to have no tactics or no know how about managing a football league club!
He's no experience of management and as a player was also a journey man! On paper he should fail as a football manager at his first attempt and so do plenty of previous players but we cannot afford to gamble our clubs status with a man who is obviously not good enough! Everything he does isn't good enough and his standing a million miles away from the touch line mustn't help! He also seems to have plenty of excuses after each game!
He's not good enough and neither is Joyce as captain can I add!

For me he has to go! I'm not bothered about Coleman but he would be a great person to bring back but we need someone experienced! I can't see us picking any results up! The club and the team need a change and a shakeup!